Auto-Pallets

Ryan, there is not currently an auto-palette function in the Eos family of products.  We've discussed this quite a bit and to make this a truly useful tool, generating the palettes and the order in which the palettes appear is something most users want to have control over.  Let's take color for example - having the desk generate 500++ palettes based on the number of gel matches the color system says a particular fixture can achieve isn't really helpful.    Most shows use a specific palette of colors, and programmers take care with the organization of that data.   I've seen programmers arrange their palettes RGBIV, or sometimes in groups of unsaturated warms, unsaturated cools, saturated warms, saturated cools..... or grouping their cool colors and then their warm colors.

It would be simple to build a tool that just "brunt forced" that data into buckets that we choose - but that seems of limited value.  At the end of the day, it seems more useful to give the user control over the organization and the content.  And there is a lot we can do with grouping functions to automate things. 

We will be looking at an auto-palette function in the future, though, as well as abstracted grouping data.   It just hasn't gotten to the hot list yet.

Does that make sense?

Thanks!!

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Anne,

I completely agree that every designer has there own color mixing pallets.  As far as on the fly programming I'd like to see a simple auto-pallet generator.  For example let say I have 1 hour to patch and quickly program some looks.  If I have 8 VL 3000 and 12 Mac 700 it would be easy enough to group them by fixture: all Vl3000-all Mac 700-Odd VL3000-Even VL 3000-Odd Mac 700-Even Mac 700.  Now for color just need some basics: Cyan-Magenta-Yellow-Congo Blue-Red-Green-Orange-Lavender.  Now for beam have all the gobos on both wheels in a pallet.  I program on the fly a lot on HOG 3 but am finding many more theatre venues in Southern California with EOS/ION.  If I only have an hour on an EOS it takes me about 30 minutes just to send the most basic colors and gobos into the beam pallets.  Its just time wasted that the console could generate fairly easy when it already knows what gobos/colors each and every fixture has.  Just a thought.

Thanks 

Just a suggestion.

You could pre-build some of this in the offline or transfer it from a previous show file.  

If I need to build color palettes quickly I use the color picker to set all the fixtures together and record the color palette.

Just a couple ideas.

Ryan, we will be putting this feature in, as it will save you a lot of time.  It is creeping higher on the priority list.

Andrew, thanks for the suggestion!!

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Anne, when you say, that it would generate hundreds of colour palettes or when you Ryan say that you only need your eight colours (which i'm sure you woud have to agree were maybe useless to someone else), then why don't you let us choose what we would want the generator to create for us.

so let's think of a special way of naming (empty) palettes e.g. *L181* . so every label with asterisks would be populated by the auto-pallet generator with the gel that's mentioned. or else i'm sure that you guys can think of some special character or combination thereof to indicate a pallet that we want to have auto-filled.

for gobos the label could be *G1.3* for 3rd gobo of 1st wheel.

that way Ryan would be able to create his 8 colour pallets and have them filled and an avid theatrical operator could have his (empty) default show that he loads before each show to create the new one from it. and in his default showfile there would be "his" 50 pallets in the order he prefers to have them..

any thoughts?

Cheers from Switzerland

Felix

Felix.  That is somewhat close to the plan that we have .... at least where color is concerned.

:-)

Thanks much!

a

Hello,

are the auto-pallets still on the list? and will those include beam-shape palletes?
maybe on V1.9.5. already? 

by the way, when are u expecting 1.9.5 to be released?

Thanks for yer time

greetings

Mart Hielema

Matt, auto palettes are not in 1.9.5.  Sometime next year is when you'll likely see them.

I'd imagine 1.9.5 will release sometime in mid-November.  

Thanks much!

a

Soooo.  Auto palletes not yet implemented?  I searched the 1.9.11 supplement...

Incidently, in terms of color, I would not autocreate every gel #.  But every color on colorwheel is very doable.  Other consoles use a separate table in the color parameter selection to access different gel colors.

As I'm sure you all know.

Soooo.  Auto palletes not yet implemented?  I searched the 1.9.11 supplement...

Incidently, in terms of color, I would not autocreate every gel #.  But every color on colorwheel is very doable.  Other consoles use a separate table in the color parameter selection to access different gel colors.

As I'm sure you all know.