Changing fixture modes / Workflow for adjusting Color Pallets

We have a full rig of approximately. 30x S4 Daylight HDs. When they were first installed, they were setup in HSIC Mode as per the current designer's request. Said designer is not working here anymore and i really want to get these fixtures in Direct mode for easier programming.

However, changing modes on all the S4s breaks most of our current color palettes. Since we are a repertory theatre with about 8 active shows its gonna be a pita to adjust colors / redo CPs. I was wondering if anyone here has experience with drastic changes in Patch and can chime in with some workflow advice on how to integrate the new modes with minimal effort.

Here's my current plan:

Im gonna grab two unused S4s and set them up at FOH. One in HSIC mode and one in direct mode. Then i can recall the colors to the HSIC fixture and then store a new CP with the Direct fixture (e.g. CP x.1). Then I can replace CP X with CP X.1 in Blind for the whole show. This would be my naive approach. 

Please let me know if you can think of a better workflow to mass update Color Palettes when changing fixture modes.

Thanks.

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  • Not 100% sure this would work but I'd definitely try it : 

    Enable virtual Hue Sat in Setup/System
    Choose an existing HSIC fixture from your palettes as the information 'donor', and patch a Direct to be the 'recipient' then : 

    Blind

    Color palette 1 thru enter

    [donor fixture] Hue Sat copy to [recipient fixture]

    [recipient fixture] by type enter

  • Virtual HSB is enabled in our Template showfile by default. This was most likely done because we regularly recall colors from HS fixture profiles. Here's the problem though (I didn't make this super clear in the Post):

    The current HSIC fixture profile is not Color calibrated. The Direct mode is Color calibrated. This causes issues, since color calibration affects the Virtual HSB, which is respected when recalling colors. This is the whole reason why we want to get away from this uncalibrated HSIC mode. Because with color-calibrated fixtures, you get way better results recalling colors from CMY/RGBA/HueSat fixtures. Without a calibrated fixture profile, when you recall colors from other color mixing systems, the result is rarely acceptable and needs to be manually adjusted.

    Anyways, thanks for your comment. Virtual HSB is disabled by default and without it i would probably be screwed. I will also try if "Hue Sat Recall from" gets different results than a "color recall from".

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  • Virtual HSB is enabled in our Template showfile by default. This was most likely done because we regularly recall colors from HS fixture profiles. Here's the problem though (I didn't make this super clear in the Post):

    The current HSIC fixture profile is not Color calibrated. The Direct mode is Color calibrated. This causes issues, since color calibration affects the Virtual HSB, which is respected when recalling colors. This is the whole reason why we want to get away from this uncalibrated HSIC mode. Because with color-calibrated fixtures, you get way better results recalling colors from CMY/RGBA/HueSat fixtures. Without a calibrated fixture profile, when you recall colors from other color mixing systems, the result is rarely acceptable and needs to be manually adjusted.

    Anyways, thanks for your comment. Virtual HSB is disabled by default and without it i would probably be screwed. I will also try if "Hue Sat Recall from" gets different results than a "color recall from".

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