Setting a Level and a Palette in a Single Command

No, That's not how palette's work, I'm afraid!

Focus Palletes just record focus (ie Pan and Tilt) values, not Intensity.

So [1] [record] [focus palette] [1] [enter] will record the pan and tilt position of the moving light on channel 1.

If you want to record the level you need to either record an intensity palette as well or (probably more commonly in this kind of situation) simply record it in a cue.

So to use the focus palette:

[1] [focus palette] [1] [enter]

sets the pan and tilt of the mover on channel 1 to the previously recorded focus palette 1

[1] [@] [full] [enter]

sets the level at full

{record] [cue] [1] [enter]

records the mover at full in the position set by focus palette 1 into cue 1.

That help a little?

Andy

I don't think I made myself clear enough. I understand that palettes only record one category of data. I'm not trying to record or create palettes; I'm trying to recall the palettes to a fixture in live.

My problem is that I can't seem to recall a palette to a fixture and set a level with only one entry in the command line, even though it seems the manual suggests this should be possible.

It's already possible to recall more than one type of palette to a fixture at once. Ex: [1] [Focus Palette] [1] [Beam Palette] [2] [Enter] will recall beam palette 2 and focus palette 1 to fixture one

I don't think I made myself clear enough. I understand that palettes only record one category of data. I'm not trying to record or create palettes; I'm trying to recall the palettes to a fixture in live.

My problem is that I can't seem to recall a palette to a fixture and set a level with only one entry in the command line, even though it seems the manual suggests this should be possible.

It's already possible to recall more than one type of palette to a fixture at once. Ex: [1] [Focus Palette] [1] [Beam Palette] [2] [Enter] will recall beam palette 2 and focus palette 1 to fixture one

You could try recording an intensity palette. Even if it's simply a case of recording 1 through x at full in IP1...

Thoughts for a new desk function: could intensity palettes work like cues? ie, chan x @ IP ON. Then, you could say (to use  the above example): [1] [Focus Palette] [1] [Beam Palette] [2] [IP] [ON] [Enter]

Of course, [IP] [OFF] might be more useful (saving making channels data 'absolute', for example)!

to me it feels like a bug. the desk doesn't return an error message so the syntax should be valid, shouldn't it? however, it only executes the intensity command and ignores the palette. maybe Anne or someone from the team could shed some light on this...

Intensity and Focus are 2 separate palettes and cannot be combined on a command line as far as I can determine.  Not a bug, just the way the console works.

Record all as a Preset then Recall or Sneak the Preset.

Steve B.

hey steve

well, you can set different palettes in one command line. and if the intensity is in a intensity palette it works. just don't see why it shouldn't work when values of absolute data and palettes are combined....

cheers

ueli

This certainly does seem like a bug to me. I don't see why the others aren't seeing quite what I'm trying to do.

Also, what does having a [Intensity Palette] [On] function have to do with this? That's already what recalling a palette does. Also, an off function is not necessary, as we have <Make Manual>.

Anyhow, let's not stray from the point of this thread: It doesn't seem possible to recall a palette and set a level for a fixture at the same time.

Since this does seem to be a bug, could someone from ETC address this in the future?

Actually, you cannot set a channel to more than one palette in the same command line.  If you are using the direct selects, pressing the record target you want is terminating the command line and pressing the next palette/preset that you want is reopening the command line and setting the new palette.  So, it isn't actually a correct statement that you can do this with referenced data but not intensity values.  You cannot (for example) enter a command line instruction that is [channel list] [focus palette] [5] [color palette] [2] [Enter].

Combining numeric instructions with referenced data recall is not undoable, but it is a bit of a slippery slope.  We do not prohibit using the @ button for setting non-intensity parameters.     Therefore, there is possibility for confusion about what the intent of the appended @ might be.

We do not consider this is bug.  This is currently considered a syntax extension that we have not yet decided that we want to do, given the possibilities for ambiguity.

:-)

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