ion & ML question for a Noob....

Hi there, 

I have recently started getting more involved in lighting (as i come from a sound background) and have bought an Ion. My question may be a simple answer but my level of understanding of tracking desks and intelligent fixtures is limited so i must apologise.

I have a show where I am using 2 x Mac 700's and some ChromaQ scrollers (as well as other kit) and providing there is a blackout SOME of the cues seem to move on dark ok. However, there are a few cues where you see the undesireable scroll through the scroller colours or the 700's move whilst fading or changing colour etc...

Is there basicaaly a way (or another mehtod) of ensuring that the shutter or intensity fades first before the position or colour?  I have read up a bit but seeing as i'm not sure what its called that i need to do its a bit tricky.. 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.... On a side not the Ion is a great desk, ETC have been second to none support wise!

Matt

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  • Yes, this is a great feature of the Eos family called Marking. You can read up on it in Chapter 12 of the Ion v1.7 manual, but Mark is essentially a feature that tells your Non-Intensity Parameters to go to their next setting before the light actually turns on. The easiest way to do this would be to turn on AutoMark, which can be found in Show Settings. If you need to manually add Marks, just select each channel that has a new Non-Intensity value (such as a new scroll color) in a specific cue and press [Mark] [Earliest] [Enter] (there are other settings you can use as well, which you can read up on in the manual). Also, you probably already know this, but Marking doesn't really work unless the units do actually fade out between different Non-Intensity settings.

    Hope that helps!

  • thanks for the swift reply though.... Matt

  • EDIT: Looks like Rochem beat me to it. So , what he said. 

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    Hi Matt,

    The fact that you say that you see the gobo going to "Home" in LX 2 makes me think that you have somehow recorded gobo values into Q 2. I'm assuming that you are using the Mac 700's in a gobo in LX 1?

    If you see something moving as a light fades up from 0, it is not marked properly(something might be preventing Auto Mark from working). If something moves as the light fades to 0, then the light has a hard command on a Non Intensity Parameter in the cue that also fades the light to 0. 

    My suggestion would be to go into Q 2 in Blind, select your moving light channels, select all NIP's and then [@] [Cue Only] [Enter]. By removing the values Q only, it will ensure that Q 3 has the proper hard values for the move instructions. 

    Also keep in mind that if the light is going out in Q 2, and the Q time is a 5, that it will take the lights 5 seconds to fade out, and then the console will take another 5 seconds to mark the light, so if you take Q three within 10 seconds of Q2, you will probably catch the tail end of the mark.

     

    HTH,



    [edited by: travisres at 4:28 PM (GMT -6) on Sat, May 21 2011] Double post
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  • EDIT: Looks like Rochem beat me to it. So , what he said. 

    ==

    Hi Matt,

    The fact that you say that you see the gobo going to "Home" in LX 2 makes me think that you have somehow recorded gobo values into Q 2. I'm assuming that you are using the Mac 700's in a gobo in LX 1?

    If you see something moving as a light fades up from 0, it is not marked properly(something might be preventing Auto Mark from working). If something moves as the light fades to 0, then the light has a hard command on a Non Intensity Parameter in the cue that also fades the light to 0. 

    My suggestion would be to go into Q 2 in Blind, select your moving light channels, select all NIP's and then [@] [Cue Only] [Enter]. By removing the values Q only, it will ensure that Q 3 has the proper hard values for the move instructions. 

    Also keep in mind that if the light is going out in Q 2, and the Q time is a 5, that it will take the lights 5 seconds to fade out, and then the console will take another 5 seconds to mark the light, so if you take Q three within 10 seconds of Q2, you will probably catch the tail end of the mark.

     

    HTH,



    [edited by: travisres at 4:28 PM (GMT -6) on Sat, May 21 2011] Double post
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