Busking w/ Moving Lights on the Ion

Hey everyone. I've been using an Ion with 2 Mac 2ks and 4 Mac 600s, along with the occasional set of LED pars for a few years now. I work at a theatre that does the occasional rehearsed production, but is typically a roadhouse, so most of the time I'm busking during a live concert. The best way I've come up with to control the movers in this scenario is to create cue stacks that only apply to one area: so for the 2ks, I'll have a submaster that controls only their intensity, next to 3 cue stacks assigned to submasters. 1 cue stack will only effect the color, another the beam, and the last will only effect the focus. So I chose a color, a location and a gobo, and then bring the intensity up. This works alright, but is less than optimal for the following reasons:

 

1. It takes a lot of time on the front end to get the cue stacks made. For each cue I write, I have to type in the channels of the movers, dig thru the encoder wheels to change what i want, and then type in this long command line to get what i want:

[ch]# [thru] [ch]# [beam] [record][cue]4/1[time]0[label/note]#name#

Perhaps I could save time by a. using groups (hitting the button under a sub always brings up "Group Sub #," does this behave like a group? can I hit that and then access the encoder wheels?) and b. using filters

2.All the labeling I do for the cue stacks seems to be pointless after the most recent software update. It used to be that I could type [cue] 2/ [enter] into the command line, and cue stack 2 would show up on the screen. Now, it seems my only option is to format the cue screen to have 2 clue stacks, one of which is always cue list 1, and the other is selectable. Doesn't give you much screen real estate, and pretty inconvenient to scroll thru.

It occurs to me that I may be doing everything in a very bizarre way. How do you guys busk with movers?

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  • The way you're operating sounds like it may be an ideal situation to use Direct Selects [which are, I think, being revamped to be even better in the near future, but are busker-friendly now]  ...even if you're stuck using a mouse, and not a touchscreen, to get at them. You'd certainly save a lot of time without having to filter what you're recording at any rate, and selecting the features directly (with clicks of the mouse/poking virtual buttons) rather than selecting cues from multiple lists would be, I think, at least as fast. I'd keep the intensity sub, and free up the other faders for other things... like a cuelist of effects, maybe?

    And boy, I really wish I had a "clue stack".

    J

  • I've been playing around with this in offline, and it does seem like the way to go! Indeed, I only have a mouse, but I think you're right about it being easier regardless. Perhaps someday we'll get the touchscreens. Someday...

    Thanks for the advice!

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