selecting channels without specifying "end of selection"

Hello everyone,

I am missing a crucial channel selection syntax that considerably speeds up my programming on other consoles (Hog3).

When I select channels, I usually want to select a range of channels of which I chose the desk channel numbers myself when patching. Like 1 thru 12 for my FOH lights, 21 thru 26 for my backlights, 31 thru 34 for my sidelights warm and 41 thru 44 for my sidelights cold.

I am used to selecting my channels with "thru" but without having to specify the end of the selection. The console is doing the thinking about what would be the logical end of that selection. For instance: selecting "1 thru <enter>" would select channels 1 thru 12, selecting "7 thru <enter>" would select channels 7 thru 12 and selecting "24 thru <enter>" would select channels 24 thru 26, the last 3 channels of my backlights.

I hope you agree it is a good idea to bring this method of channel selection in the syntax of Eos/Gio/Ion. 

It would considerably speed up my programming.

Thanks and bye,

Mike Evers

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  • Hi Mike,

    I know this has been brought up before, and that a number of other consoles do something similar, but I struggle to see how it is particularly helpful. What would you want to look at for the end of the sequence, simply gaps in channel numbering? Would you want to include all sequential units of the same type?What happens if you have 1-4 as dimmers and 5-8 as movers, which is the last channel in your selection, 4 or 8?

    Maybe it's just me, but in general I want to be sure of what channels I'm asking the desk to select, and this feels like it could be rather confusing?!

    Cheers

    Dan

  • You're giving the answer yourself, actually.

    Sequentially numbered units of the same type until there is a gap in channels. This asks for some more thinking in patch (which channels to delete to create gaps), but I know for sure it will speed up my channel selection considerably. Check for instance the channel patch I've just created for an upcoming show:

    1-512: complete DMX universe to houselights

    601-609: Clay Paky Stage Profile Plus in outer circle truss

    611-616: Clay Paky Stage Profile Plus in inner circle truss

    621-623: Clay Paky Stage Profile Plus in lowhangers above stage

    631-637: Clay Paky Stage Profile Plus in balcony ring

    701-705: Clay Paky Alpha Beam 300 on stage floor

    801-860: LED-fixtures in circle-shaped scenery

     

    In reply to your example (1-4 as dimmers and 5-8 as movers), I would separate them always. Would keep my dimmers between channel numbers 1-100 and start with my movers at channel 101, or maybe even 201 or higher.



    [edited by: mikevers at 5:16 PM (GMT -6) on Tue, Nov 8 2011]
  • Hey Mike - this is actually on our list.  For those of you who are used to this selection technique, it seems a much missed approach.  For those of you who wouldn't find it useful (Dan..  and a number of other that we have had discussion about this with... :-) it is a very benign thing.  You wouldn't have to use it if you didn't want to.      The worst thing that would happen is if you terminated the command line prematurely, you'd end up with a channel selection, where now it errors out.  Seems a pretty innocent thing.... 

    thanks much!!

    a

     

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  • Hey Mike - this is actually on our list.  For those of you who are used to this selection technique, it seems a much missed approach.  For those of you who wouldn't find it useful (Dan..  and a number of other that we have had discussion about this with... :-) it is a very benign thing.  You wouldn't have to use it if you didn't want to.      The worst thing that would happen is if you terminated the command line prematurely, you'd end up with a channel selection, where now it errors out.  Seems a pretty innocent thing.... 

    thanks much!!

    a

     

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