ION recording stop effect

I have a cue (3.5) running an effect (5).  I want to insert a cue (3.7) with the same look, just no effect running.  I ran cue 3.5 stop effect enter record cue 3.7 enter and everything goes to home color.  How do I record the inserted cue with the effect stopped?  I tried record only and q only same result.

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