ION recording stop effect

If you take a look at the actual effect. [Effect] [Effect] you should see a few options on how your effects behaves when entering and exiting the cue.

I'd suggest for your situation have a look at the exit of Effect 5 and I suggest it should possibly be Stop and Hold.

Sammy thanks for your reply.  Checked effect 5 and set it at stop and hold but still when running 3.5 with the effect running, stop the effect, record that as 3.7 when I hit enter all the led's go white.

Hi Jeff,

What happens when you run from cue 3.5 into 3.7.

I was assuming you are running some kind of colour chase so what I expect to happen is the chase to hold on the colour where ever it is in the effect when you press Go. If you jump to Cue 3.7 probably will give you white as I presume it doesnt have any colour recorded into the cue. but if you run from cue 3.5 to 3.7, it should work.

Sammy,

I've been spending a lot of time on this tryhing to work it and I am exhausted.  There seems to be something strange in my 3's because other cues allow stop effect to be recorded.  The way I ended up making it work is I was finally able to get it to record the hue sat effect 5 with a rate of 0.  For whatever reason all other attempts to do that always kept it at the running rate.  It would not accept 0 as a rate, but for now it works.

So that works on this event.  If I use Stop Effect the led's go to white every time I try to record it.

Maybe some day I can send the show file.  For now I need a Darvon and Apple Juice.  Show tomorrow and sat,  Who knows next time.  Arghhhh.

Ok so after an afternoon playing around with Stop and Hold on effects. I think I might have come across what might have been the problem.

When using a Hue/Saturation Colour effect. The effect is only applied to the hue and saturation paramaters. as such you can have say Cyan at full, Magenta at 0 and Yellow at 0, underneath the effect, to make it a more cyany colour change. What this does though to the effect when using the stop and hold feature is drive it to Full Cyan when you stop the effect, which isn't what you want as you intend the effect to freeze the effect.

Some things i tried:

1. Use a Absolute Effect instead of a Colour Effect - This worked and solved the problem. I believe because when you apply a absolute effect it runs on all parameters of the fixture and therefore a stop and hold effects all parameters.

2. You can use the freeze function [Effect] [X] [Fader Controls] {Freeze} [Enter] - The freeze function seems pretty cool. I could see a really nice use of using it instead of having to make multiple effects to have different exits. I could use a freeze in a macro on the cue where I wanted the effect to stop and hold, and then I could have the effect set to fade by size or something for other times in the show. Unfortunately I can't seem to get the syntax above to work in a macro. 

Note:

There also seems to be something wierd going on where the Stop and Hold feature works when having an effect running on purple values and then running into a cue where the effect is stopped. But if you were to run the same effect where you went from blue values, say all 0's (just to make sure its O/W and not a cyany effect) and running into a cue with a stopped effect. It will drive it to O/W instead of holding the hue/saturation colour at that point in time.

I hope the file I sent back works for you Jeff. Maybe this info might help. Try using an absolute effect if it doesn't with desired colour palettes.

P.S I don't think I have ever used a hue/saturation effect to get a quick colour chase. Am i doing something wrong. It always just seems to do pale yellow to pale magenta. Any tips?

Ok so after an afternoon playing around with Stop and Hold on effects. I think I might have come across what might have been the problem.

When using a Hue/Saturation Colour effect. The effect is only applied to the hue and saturation paramaters. as such you can have say Cyan at full, Magenta at 0 and Yellow at 0, underneath the effect, to make it a more cyany colour change. What this does though to the effect when using the stop and hold feature is drive it to Full Cyan when you stop the effect, which isn't what you want as you intend the effect to freeze the effect.

Some things i tried:

1. Use a Absolute Effect instead of a Colour Effect - This worked and solved the problem. I believe because when you apply a absolute effect it runs on all parameters of the fixture and therefore a stop and hold effects all parameters.

2. You can use the freeze function [Effect] [X] [Fader Controls] {Freeze} [Enter] - The freeze function seems pretty cool. I could see a really nice use of using it instead of having to make multiple effects to have different exits. I could use a freeze in a macro on the cue where I wanted the effect to stop and hold, and then I could have the effect set to fade by size or something for other times in the show. Unfortunately I can't seem to get the syntax above to work in a macro. 

Note:

There also seems to be something wierd going on where the Stop and Hold feature works when having an effect running on purple values and then running into a cue where the effect is stopped. But if you were to run the same effect where you went from blue values, say all 0's (just to make sure its O/W and not a cyany effect) and running into a cue with a stopped effect. It will drive it to O/W instead of holding the hue/saturation colour at that point in time.

I hope the file I sent back works for you Jeff. Maybe this info might help. Try using an absolute effect if it doesn't with desired colour palettes.

P.S I don't think I have ever used a hue/saturation effect to get a quick colour chase. Am i doing something wrong. It always just seems to do pale yellow to pale magenta. Any tips?