ION flashing LED's

Funny you should ask.  Actually to make it deeper:

Originally I had Robe 575XT washes patched as channels 301 through 306 at 353 thru 448.  I'm replacing those with the Chauvet QWash led's in all my shows but because there are insufficient addresses for the Washes on Universe 2 AND the Robe's as well (along with all other fixtures on 2), I assigned the Chauvets the same start address 353 at the original Robes.  The Chauvets end now at 472.  Of course that unpatched the Robe's but they still showed on the patch as fixtures, just no addresses.

I thought maybe that might have something to do with it so I actually deleted channels 301 through 306 from the patch.  Now there is no sign of Robe 575XT washes at all on the patch.

That didn't fix it.

Those Chauvet channels; 311 thru 318 have never been used to my knowledge for anything.  If I delete them now then that will remove the Chauvet QWashes.  Do you think I should do that then re-patch them back to those channels?

Also lmk if you would like to see the show.

Eh might as well send it.

Hi Jeff,

A couple things I see looking at the file offline.

You say that the Q washes aren't in any cues, but from what I can tell, 311-318 have varying color information recorded into lists 1 thru 20 cue 0.5 and then come to 51 percent in the Q 1 of those lists.

The home value in patch for Intensity on the Q washes is 255. Do these lights have an inverse dimmer? So 255 is off and 0 is full? I would think that if they were actually homing at full, you would have noticed them all always being on, but its odd to me that they are set to home to 255. I could see this being part of the Sneak issue if they are sneaking to full, but then being overridden by something else

Looking at your color pallets 9 and 10 with the color mix mode. These two CP's have 255 values in them for the RGBAW channels as well as the appropriate value for color mix channel. I don't  know the fixture, but if Color mix has value, does this override the RGBAW settings? I'm guessing it does, but I'm  wondering, since Color Mix is set to Snap mode, if you are fading from Full red to "CP 10", are you seeing the "fade" (in 0) to white before the unit realized that it is supposed to be overriding in Color Mix mode, and then it snaps to what it is supposed to be doing? 

All just observations. Not sure if any of it is actually causing the problem, but hopefully its a bit useful.

Hey Benjamin,

Thanks for the observations.  Here is the show I worked on briefly tonight.  Still needs some tweaking but hopfully the problems are gone.

When I mentioned I was having problems even though none of the QWashes were in the show, I forgot that the one I sent you did have them in cues.  I did have the same problems though when they weren't in cues, but that may well have been due to that intensity issue in the library

Regarding Capture showing "F" when everything is off.  It appears to be a bug or something in their fixture personality.  They have a value called "Light" seperate from Intensity.  When the fixtures are Homed that "Light" value goes to full but intensity goes to 0.  (I changed the default to 0 in the ION library)  I have sent them an inquiry as to what Light and Intensity do.

Anyway, the values for the QWash fixtures were in the library.  The fixtures are basically temporary until one of the upcoming software updates, then they will actually be officially in the Library.  For now at least I was able to edit the QWash with intensity at 0 and away went my flashing fixture on Clear Sneak Enter and I also dont see any of them appear on the Live display any longer when tapping the top bump stop/back buttons.

Regarding the color palettes.  Yes I believe the Color Mixes override whats set in RGBAW because no matter what I set RGBAW the output of the fixtures remains at whatever color mix I select; ie: 3200k.  But I know I'm pretty sure it's a good practice to zero out values when using macros like that, so I re-did #9 and #10 with RGBAW values at 0 and only using color mix macros.

One other thing.  If you open up the Fixtures in patch - I guess it's the favorites (black and yelloe) screen and start scrolling down the list you will see some that have Edit in white (of course they are copies or fixtures able to be edited), some have Lib Update in gray.  Those that I already updated, and one SGM Victory fixture that has Lib Update in white.  I click on it to update, get the confirm screen, click OK but it never grays out.  Know anything about what causes that?

I guess the file would be helpful.  :-)

Talked with tech support and it was discovered the QWash fixtures I had in the show file were the original beta fixtures sent to me before being put into the library permanently.  They did have the intensity set at 255 default.  Because they were betas installed as temps they were editable, therefore I changed the intensity to 0 and the problems went away.  Aparantly when using clear, sneak, enter it sends the fixtues to default for a moment and since the fixtures defaulted at 255 intensity thats why they flashed quickly.

Also for those of you who are still learning fixture patching I thought I would share this with you.  Of course most of you already know it.

When in Patch - Fixtures, the first screen that comes up is the black screen with a list of fixtures in white.  I call it the "pre-favorites screen" for lack of knowledge.  When you scroll down that list you will get options for each fixture to Copy, Delete or Update Lib (shows white when available).  You will also sometimes get options to Edit.  I believe an Editable fixtures is one that is not permanently in the library.  It would be one you copied, customized, hand made, etc.

When you get the option to Update Lib and you choose that, a screen will come up giving you some warnings and asking if you are sure you want to update.  Once you select OK the Update Lib changes to gray, sometimes.  I found some fixtures that remained in white.  Don't know why.

Anyway once you have updated the library I was told you need to go back to patch (click "return" at the bottom of the favorites screen) and re-patch that/those fixture(s) you updated by typing their channel(s), going to manufacturer, picking the fixture and you're done.  DON'T pick the fixture from the Favorites screen as they are the same ones that showed in the "pre-favorites screen".  You need to go through Manfctr.

Re-Patch especially if they are going to replace a customized fixture you have patched, which was my case.  Even though I updated the QWash fixture I hadn't realized the fact that what I had patched was a customized fixture and therefore update lib only updated the library, not the patch.  Once I re-patched the QWash it then had the proper intensity default and the problems were gone.

Any comments, corrections, etc. appreciated!!!