Sub levels are up when console turns on

Hello All,

Thanks for the replies. I have attempted all suggestions and haven't been able to solve the problem (I thought the Deep Clear would do the trick but not so).

I noticed that it didn't matter which Fader I assigned to Sub 1. It still returns to being Full when the Board gets turned on with the Fader at 0%. I decided to delete Sub 1 from the Sub List Display. The problem went away. However, when I create a new Sub 1 from scratch, the same problem occurs (even if I have no levels recorded in Sub 1). The Sub has the same attributes as many other Subs but it's the only one that has this reaction. I have copied Sub 1 to Sub 99, loaded both into different faders and still only Sub 1 is overriding the fader. 

I also noticed that if I have Sub 1 not assigned to any faders, it still goes to Full in the Submaster Display.

I'm definitely stumped.

As far as the wing, I understand now why it doesn't power down. I'm just surprised that there is no shutoff command thru USB when using a separated power supply.

Thanks again for any help. 

Baffled by something.  If you have no channels recorded at a level in Sub 1, how do you know Sub 1 is outputting ?.  Are you seeing a channel level in yellow ?.

If you have levels for channels in yellow, do an About and list that/those channel(s) to determine what sub(s) they are recorded into.

Possibly it's not Sub 1 that is driving levels ?.

As well, go into Setup - Show - Show Setup - Fader Configurations to to see if a sub with those channels is mapped to a virtual fader, that is maybe on in a different page ?.  It is possible to have a sub mapped to more then one fader, as BTW.  

In theory, doing a Delete - Sub - 1 thru 300 should clear all, with 300 being the maximum amount of subs the console supports. 

Steve,

When I have no channels recorded to Sub 1 (basically an empty Sub), there is no output and no yellow tiles. However, when I look at the Submasters Display, I notice that in the % column the Level for Sub 1 is at 100%. 

This only happens at Startup. It remains that way until I manually manipulate the level.

I have also checked to see if the Sub has been mapped to a Virtual Fader and it is not. I checked all 30 pages.

The other interesting thing is after deleting Sub 1, I type [Sub] [1] [Enter] to create a new one and the Sub % is at 100. Once I type [Sub][1][@][Out], it operates normal until I restart the console.

There is a ghost in the machine.

Julian,

Does this happen with one showfile only, or with any showfile?

What happens if you do a File>New then record a new Sub 1. Do you get the same behavior?

If it is related to a specific showfile could you attach the file here?

Thanks

Graham

and you wouldn't happen to have a startup macro?

Sounds like a Startup Macro is telling Sub 1 to go to full. That would result in everything you are seeing.

-Tim

Sounds like a Startup Macro is telling Sub 1 to go to full. That would result in everything you are seeing.

-Tim