Writing EffectSub vaules into Cue - ION 1.9

I have our most common effects loaded on EffectSubs.

I would like to create a look with the effects activated via the effect sub at a partial rate (instead of full), so I move the sub slider to where I want it.

If I then record a new cue and disable the effect subs, and go back to the previous cue, and then press go, the effects playback at 100% instead of the rate I had them set to when I recorded teh cue.

I am trying to avoid having to manually configure the rate/size per effect per cue I want to record it at.

Am I missing something simple in my record process?

 

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  • while running the cue, and with a clear command line, you would tap the [effect] key to open the effect status window.  In there you can adjust the rate, as well as size and other things if it is a linear effect, and update your cue.  

  • Thanks. I am familiar with doing that, but if I am running effects across 100 cues at different rates, that is a lot of manual work to have to update the effect rate per cue.

    I would like for it to save the current rate/size as selected by the effectsub level when I record that cue.

    We are building a new cue list 2x a week, so anything I can do to figure out how to reduce the amount of manual changes made, will save me a lot of time I already dont have each week.

     

  • Currently there is no great way to streamline your process (That I have found).   There is an effects rework coming up - though the timing is very TBD.  In terms of using subs with effects to create looks here are a few things I'm hoping to see

    1) Ability to use "Make Manual" and other tools to capture the effect data and it's overrides

    2) Provide a place to store all that information that is referenceable - like in a preset

    3) Ability to freeze an effect or series of effects and extract the absolute data so it can be recorded as a static look.

    If you have other needs/thoughts on effects now is probably a good time to make those requests.  



    [edited by: PatrickBoozer at 4:51 PM (GMT -6) on Tue, Mar 26 2013]
  • I would vote for this. On my grandMA console you can have an effect that has a specific size/rate value, or you can reference those values from a fader. On that console I have an effect fader for intensity and one for movement. I point any intensity effects (strobe, intensity chases) to one effect speed fader, and any movement effects (ballyhoo, circle) to a second effect speed fader.

    Then like the OP requests, I can fire off a bunch of effects simultaneously, and run the effect speed faders up and down with the mood.



    [edited by: aaronfessler at 8:40 AM (GMT -6) on Wed, Mar 27 2013]
  • I would vote for all of Patrick's suggestions - big time.  As I've said in the past, think about the seemingly simple request to "make channels X thru Y do what they were doing in Cue Z" if those channels were selected in a specific, non-numeric order, and then had an effect applied to them which then had both a rate and size change.

    I thought the GrandMA solution to this problem was pretty good.  Originally, it thought about effects the same way as EOS, but now, when an effect is stored into a cue, a new effect is created with all the rate/size/grouping changes plus the selection order.

    I would also vote for Aaron's suggestion of effects and cuelist rate masters - they would make busking or dance parties SO MUCH BETTER on EOS.  I hate eating up 2 handles with "slow" and "fast" versions.

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  • I would vote for all of Patrick's suggestions - big time.  As I've said in the past, think about the seemingly simple request to "make channels X thru Y do what they were doing in Cue Z" if those channels were selected in a specific, non-numeric order, and then had an effect applied to them which then had both a rate and size change.

    I thought the GrandMA solution to this problem was pretty good.  Originally, it thought about effects the same way as EOS, but now, when an effect is stored into a cue, a new effect is created with all the rate/size/grouping changes plus the selection order.

    I would also vote for Aaron's suggestion of effects and cuelist rate masters - they would make busking or dance parties SO MUCH BETTER on EOS.  I hate eating up 2 handles with "slow" and "fast" versions.

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