Channels jump out of view

At some actions (i am not sure which, but for sure sometimes it is [UPDATE]) my channel screen jumps to the line with the highest channel number.

Also if there are only two lines with channels (Flexi Patched) it puts the last line with channels on the top line of the screen so I cannot see my first channels anymore.

I guessed scroll lock would prevent this, but unfortunately this doesn't work.

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ueliriegg over 12 years ago

ScrollLock on the facepanel will change the behaviour of the Up and Down Arrow keys and not of the displays

i think the rule for bringing channels on screen is that the lowest channel number in the command line will pull focus.
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Theatermachine over 12 years ago in reply to ueliriegg

I understand this is how the console functions at the moment. It is quite unnecessary though that channels disappear from view even though there is plenty of space on the display.

Why I mentioned the scroll lock key, is because that was my first guess in how to solve the problem. A quick look in the manual learned me I was wrong.

I think it could be useful for software developers to learn about the first intuition normal users have in solving a certain problem..
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ueliriegg over 12 years ago in reply to Theatermachine

Theatermachine said:

It is quite unnecessary though that channels disappear from view even though there is plenty of space on the display.

hm, i take it, you're not in Flexi Selected, right? so when you select channel 1 and select channel 999, how would you expect seeing those two channels on the same screen? (assuming you're in a flexi mode, that shows channels 2 through 998)... should the desk zoom out, so it can display all the channels at the same time? should it change the flexi mode to Selected? or do you want the selected channels to be grouped out of order at the top of the screen (1,999,2,3,4,...)?

not trying to provoke, seriously interested
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sk8rs_dad over 12 years ago in reply to Theatermachine

I'm sure the feedback is welcome by the design team. Intuitiveness is based on what we already know, our foundation for fitting a new concept into our view of the world. Since we all have a unique history, what is intuitive to me may not be intuitive to you, and vice versa.

There are three I's in intuitive and only one U (you). 'nuff said.
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Theatermachine over 12 years ago in reply to ueliriegg

ueliriegg said:

hm, i take it, you're not in Flexi Selected, right?

I am in Flexi Patched. Even with only 40 channels patched, 20 channels each line on the display, the first 20 channels sometimes disappear. Then I need to scroll up to see them again.

On some other desks you can change this behavior in setup.
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Theatermachine over 12 years ago in reply to ueliriegg

ueliriegg said:

hm, i take it, you're not in Flexi Selected, right?

I am in Flexi Patched. Even with only 40 channels patched, 20 channels each line on the display, the first 20 channels sometimes disappear. Then I need to scroll up to see them again.

On some other desks you can change this behavior in setup.
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Anne Valentino over 12 years ago in reply to Theatermachine

What software version are you running?

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Theatermachine over 12 years ago in reply to Anne Valentino

I am running software 2.0.?.? (the one before the last update)
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Theatermachine over 9 years ago in reply to Theatermachine

On software version 2.2.3 this issue is still valid. Is there any news on the status of this problem? I could make a macro with [1][enter][clear] or ask to be paid per keystroke (as a friend suggested), but it would be great if you could solve this!
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Nick Simmons over 9 years ago in reply to Theatermachine

Can you give a step by step on how you are reproducing this.

Version 2.3.3 is about to be released, I'm on a beta build and can't reproduce this with 40 channels patch but you maybe doing something special.
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Theatermachine over 9 years ago in reply to Nick Simmons

I will try to do this soon. In any case it happens on flexi patched channels view. On the screen make sure you have more then one line of fixtures, but not more fixtures then what fits the screen without scrolling. When you update a cue with fixtures from the second line involved it happens sometimes.
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Nick Simmons over 9 years ago in reply to Theatermachine

I can't reproduce this on 2.3.2.
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Theatermachine over 9 years ago in reply to Nick Simmons

After a lot of fiddling around I think I found a way to reproduce this issue!
It depends on screen resolution and zoom level of your channels. My screen resolution is on all systems I tested this on, well above the recommended screen resolution. It is actually easier to explain with three lines of channels on the screen.
What happens is that if you press [UPDATE] the channel screen gets pushed up to accommodate the Update dialog in the CIA. This could cause one or multiple lines of channels to disappear from view.
If, with the update dialog up, only two lines of channels fit on the screen, those two lines will be the only two to remain visible after the screen collapses back down after you hit [Enter]. If you Update channel 1, there is no problem. If you update a channel that is sitting on line three, the line with channel 1 will disappear from view and won't return.
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Theatermachine over 9 years ago in reply to Nick Simmons

After a lot of fiddling around I think I found a way to reproduce this issue!
It depends on screen resolution and zoom level of your channels. My screen resolution is on all systems I tested this on, well above the recommended screen resolution. It is actually easier to explain with three lines of channels on the screen.
What happens is that if you press [UPDATE] the channel screen gets pushed up to accommodate the Update dialog in the CIA. This could cause one or multiple lines of channels to disappear from view.
If, with the update dialog up, only two lines of channels fit on the screen, those two lines will be the only two to remain visible after the screen collapses back down after you hit [Enter]. If you Update channel 1, there is no problem. If you update a channel that is sitting on line three, the line with channel 1 will disappear from view and won't return.
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Theatermachine over 9 years ago in reply to Theatermachine

Unfortunately this is still valid for 2.4 and very annoying for single screen users (or for users who zoom their channels to the maximum size that can fit the screen)
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