Submasters and intelligent fixtures

I have a reoccurring issue that I thought that I could fix but I can't seem to get it.

When I use my submasters, they effect lights that are not programmed in them if they are moving lights. If I move a submaster that controls the area lights (S4s) for area 10 for instance, it will move my moving lights around with them by controlling the pan and tilt even though they are not programmed in.

Also, when I use the submasters to control the RGB values of my LED fixtures, it looks great to have one color at full. However, when the sub is at anything less than 100%, it also adds in the other color channels. This prevents me from doing color mixing with the sliders which I know sounds archaic to those of us who can use a color picker. But, students of all ages use this computer and it is nice to have them use sliders.

This may be two separate problems but they both involve not intensity parameters and submasters.

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  • issue 1: how do you know, that e.g. pan and tilt are not programmed onto this submaster? it all comes down to how you recorded the sub. let's say 1 is a conventional and 2 is a moving light. 1 at 50 enter. do you know press Record Sub 1 Enter? then it has already happened. Chan 1 Record Sub 1 Enter would have been the right syntax. you can go and "fix" your submasters in Blind: Blind Sub 1 Enter. Chan 2 at Enter will remove anything concerning channel 2  from this sub.

    you can always check which source is contributing a value: About Chan 1 Enter. Current Values will show for each parameter which source is commanding at the moment.

    issue 2: are you sure, that you have only Red on the R sub and only Green on the G sub and only Blue on the B sub?
    let's say Chan 3 is an RGB. Record Sub 2 Enter, will record everything, Chan 3 Record Sub 2 Enter will record everything for Chan 3, Chan 3 Red Record Sub 2 Enter will only record Red for channel 3.
    to fix your submasters, you can do the same thing like for issue 1: Blind Sub 2 Enter. on the Red fader: Chan 3 Blue Green at Enter, will remove green and blue. be aware that a value of 0 and no value at all are NOT the same thing.

    does this help?

     

  • I did not realize that you could record only certain values into a sub. I will play with this. I have always only brought up what I wanted the stage to look like and then recorded the entire look into a sub. However, I am not sure that I know how to tell it to only look at the color channel. Any hints on how to do that.

    Thanks for the info.

  • One way is to set the color you desire.  No need to set any other attributes as the sub won't act upon them, but in case you have beam, position, image and intensity at values, then set the intensity to zero and then;

    Record, Sub, XX, (Hold Shift key), Minus, Beam, Focus, Form, Enter

    I'm not at the desk, but believe those are the other-then-color attribute keys on the upper right of the desk.  But the intent is to filter out the other attributes and just capture Color.

    This is as BTW, only one way to do this.  Youi can also, if recording a bunch of subs, use the Filter page (left of the CIA) as well.

     

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  • One way is to set the color you desire.  No need to set any other attributes as the sub won't act upon them, but in case you have beam, position, image and intensity at values, then set the intensity to zero and then;

    Record, Sub, XX, (Hold Shift key), Minus, Beam, Focus, Form, Enter

    I'm not at the desk, but believe those are the other-then-color attribute keys on the upper right of the desk.  But the intent is to filter out the other attributes and just capture Color.

    This is as BTW, only one way to do this.  Youi can also, if recording a bunch of subs, use the Filter page (left of the CIA) as well.

     

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