Unexpected behavior in blind, bug?

Hi All,

I was working in blind and using/trying out the syntax [cue] 0.1 [next] [thru] [enter], {channel} [at] [select active] and when I bumped the intensity wheel by accident after select active, it deleted not only the selected channels data but also a lot of other data from other channels from the cues.

The reason for trying this syntax is editing levels through the whole cue range without changing the points where the channel is at 0. By using +% or -%, +20 [enter] or /120 for proportional editing.

This is the data before using the syntax.

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The data after the syntax. As you can see a lot more data has been changed.

We use EOS 2.3.2. because we don't have the possibility to update all machines at the same time during the season.

Greetings,

Bart

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0 Nick Simmons over 9 years ago

Because you bumped the wheel it added an Enter command, so you @ Enter'ed all the data.

A couple of things about the syntax you're using.
You can just say,
Cue 0.1 Thru Enter, to select all the cues.

Then Channel X +% will just add the +% value and not affect channels at 0%

No need for you to type @ Select Active, +% does that for you.
This is the reason +% does affect channels at 0. Helpful 50% of the time and the safer decision but it catches some people out.
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0 Nick Simmons over 9 years ago

Because you bumped the wheel it added an Enter command, so you @ Enter'ed all the data.

A couple of things about the syntax you're using.
You can just say,
Cue 0.1 Thru Enter, to select all the cues.

Then Channel X +% will just add the +% value and not affect channels at 0%

No need for you to type @ Select Active, +% does that for you.
This is the reason +% does affect channels at 0. Helpful 50% of the time and the safer decision but it catches some people out.
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0 Bart v K over 9 years ago in reply to Nick Simmons

I can understand that it would @ enter the data for the selected channel but I believe it shouldn't affect any other channel. This is what it currently does.
The +% does affect channels at 0 when in blind. And sometimes I'd like to use a different value then what is under the button. Or add/substract values in a proporional way (/50 for example)
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0 Nick Simmons over 9 years ago in reply to Bart v K

I'm not sure I understand you first sentence! From the screenshot it looked like it only changed one channel.

You are correct +% does affect channels at 0, I'm not sure if it should but this maybe by design so you have both options.
If you add @ before the +% if doesn't affect channels at 0%. I'm using OLE and used the shortcut @++.
@/50 and @/120 also doesn't affect channels at 0.
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0 ueliriegg over 9 years ago in reply to Nick Simmons

nick, i looked at the pictures too and missed the difference at first. compare data for channel 702 before and after. it doesn't get erased like 701, but it does get changed...
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0 Nick Simmons over 9 years ago in reply to ueliriegg

Oh Ok, It looks like it's @Enter'd those channels from Cue 122 onwards.
I can't test this because I'd need a level wheel and I'm on Nomad.
The Eos team would need the Logs if they can't reproduce this.
I would say this is what Undo is for at the moment.
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0 Bart v K over 9 years ago in reply to Nick Simmons

I also found out that if you just enter after the @select active it does the same as bumping the level wheel. It seems the level wheel will terminate syntax like enter. Luckily we have the undo button and all this happened in a prep room so no changes to anything important.
I find it strange that the desk edits unselected channels with this syntax. And that is the biggest point of my post.
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0 Nick Simmons over 9 years ago in reply to Bart v K

I'm not seeing with the showfile I'm working on. With all cues selected I used the syntax.
101 @ Select Active Enter and it only @ Entered channel 101.
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0 Bart v K over 9 years ago in reply to Nick Simmons

We are stil using 2.3.2 software due to not being able to update all machines at the same time during the season. So it might have already been fixed. Which is a good thing of course.

Thank you for your speedy answers Nick and Ueli.

Bart
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