Moving lights black when moving

Hello. I am using an Element 60 and utilizing the Nomad offline editor. We have 6 Rush MH1 profiles and 6 MH6 Washes. Everything worked fine previously. I copied the old programing into Nomad. Reworked some magic sheets and cue structure. Loaded this into the console. Now, all my profiles go to black with any move command, I have done a goto cue 0, selected the profile channels manualy and set them to full, gone to the ML screen and manually moved the lights. Any move command blacks the lights. Once the move is done, the lights come back on. This affects all the profiles but not the washes. Any ideas on what the heck I did. No changes where done to the lights. Patch is the same and confirmed. Any thoughts, Ideas,

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0 ueliriegg over 8 years ago

page 20 of the MH3 manual. does this sound familiar?

"Blackout during change or movement

The fixture can be set so that when running a show, blackout is enabled
during gobo change, color change, and/or pan and tilt movement. This is
switched off by default. To adjust the blackout during show playback settings:

1. Select FIXTURE SETTINGS and press ENTER to confirm.
2. Use the DOWN and UP buttons to select BL. O. P/T MOVING, BL.O.COLOR CHANGE, or BL. O: GOBO CHANGE and press ENTER to confirm.
3. Use the DOWN and UP buttons to select YES (blackout during movement or change) or NO (normal).
4. Press ENTER to set (or press MENU to exit without making a change)
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0 W Sargent over 8 years ago in reply to ueliriegg

Ok... I'll check that although I didn't touch the profiles from one show setting on the console to the next so I'm curious if there is a way to change this with a console setting. Thanks for the feedback.
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0 ueliriegg over 8 years ago in reply to W Sargent

your DimCurve parameter is set to PositionBlink, set it to Off2
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0 Sean Stone over 7 years ago in reply to ueliriegg

Is this setting on the MH6? I only get four dimmer curve options: linear, square, inverse square and s-curve.
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0 ueliriegg over 7 years ago in reply to Sean Stone

in the current personality it is under lampControls
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0 Sean Stone over 7 years ago in reply to ueliriegg

I found the exact screen (channel/about/lamp controls) and the position blink buttons from your screen shot are not there. I’ve got “fixture global reset”, “reset calibration”, “set calibration off”, “set calibration StrPnClbtn”, “set calibration StrTltClbrtn”, seat calibration StrZmClbrtn”, “position MSpeed track 1”, “Position MSpeed Track 100”, “position MSpeed Track 80”, “Fixture Display”, “fixture display on”, “enable calibration.” Library Data is Rev #4, 23 Sept 2016. (Thanks—this is the closest I’ve come to knowing at least what the problem IS...)
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0 ueliriegg over 7 years ago in reply to Sean Stone

what's your software version? you can try to go to patch, {Fixtures} then use the up/down arrows to navigate to the MH 6. there a softkey in the bottom left corner called {Update Lib}. is it greyed out or active? if active click it.

if you install a new library the console doesn't update older personalities you have patched in your showfile for safety reasons. and exactly for those safety reasons you should check your cues after you have clicked Update Lib if everything still looks the same...
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0 ueliriegg over 7 years ago in reply to Sean Stone

what's your software version? you can try to go to patch, {Fixtures} then use the up/down arrows to navigate to the MH 6. there a softkey in the bottom left corner called {Update Lib}. is it greyed out or active? if active click it.

if you install a new library the console doesn't update older personalities you have patched in your showfile for safety reasons. and exactly for those safety reasons you should check your cues after you have clicked Update Lib if everything still looks the same...
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0 Sean Stone over 7 years ago in reply to ueliriegg

Version 2.6.0 (2.6.0.9.0.103)

Fixture Library version 2.6.0.9.0.38

The update is active, but a little nervous to try three days before open. I’ll grab my Gadget tomorrow and try following the same steps in case it does something funky. I’ll post results tomorrow. Thanks again.
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0 ueliriegg over 7 years ago in reply to Sean Stone

can't look it up right now if there is currently a newer version of the MH 6 personality, so why not go to patch fixtures and look if UpdateLib lights up
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0 Sean Stone over 7 years ago in reply to ueliriegg

Yes, did, and the button lights up, so there IS a newer version. I just want to try the update on something OTHER than the show console in case it changes other things (the MH 6s are used in a fair number of the 200+ cues in this show that opens in three days). If it fixes the problem when I update using my Gadget, then I’ll apply it to the show console as well.
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0 Sean Stone over 7 years ago in reply to Sean Stone

Applied the change to the Element, set blink to off (because I now had the button) but it only works intermittently. When I go back to check, the “blink off” button is no longer illuminated, regardless of whether I save it in a cue (if I indeed need to do that. I was hoping it was a more global thing. This is so frustrating...
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0 ueliriegg over 7 years ago in reply to Sean Stone

Did you see my very first answer in this thread? The fixture might go back to the configuration set in the fixture when resetting.
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0 Sean Stone over 7 years ago in reply to ueliriegg

I did, but there is no fixture setting for move in black (or not) on the MH 6. The manual DOES say that DMX 14 value 150-154 is the setting for pan/tilt blackout =off. But isn’t that address what the position blink off should be talking to?
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0 Sean Stone over 7 years ago in reply to Sean Stone

Final update: a success story (touch wood). Apparently a board reboot was in order. We shut it down last night, heated it up for a final dress tonight and everything worked as it should. Thanks again for all the assistance ueliriegg--couldn't have done it without you.
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