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Color Effects Help Please.

Hey Guys,

Last week, I had 25 LED pars in the air and enough free time to really get my feet wet with Relative Color Effects.  The fixtures were hung in a five by five grid so with different groupings and offsets, I was able to do really fantastic (to me anyway) effects.  Let me say that 25 fixtures doing a hue-sat roll in a spread grouping looks killer on the the color picker.  I ran out of time before I figured this one out though-  How do I make concentric rings of color rolling in the fixture grid.

I have a 5x5 grid, channels 1 through 25.  Group 1 is 1>5+6+10+11+15+16+20+21>25, creating the outer ring.  Group 2 is 7>9+12+14+17>19, the middle ring.  Group 3 is 13, the center unit.  I want the colors of these channels to roll from group 1 the group 3.  How do I do this without writing it into cues.  Is the answer a parameter-based step effect?  I tried that once but it didn't work and I didn't have time to figure out why.  The manual doesn't  delve into non-intensity step effects at all.  Anybody know anything?  Badger?  Forsstrom-Jones?...

Thanks,  B 

PS  I think it would be really cool if I could see the Color Picker with active channels at the same time as the Effects editing screen.  Is that currently possible?

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    Try an absolute effect.

    Create some color pallettes :  1 will be all fixtures at Red full, 2 will be all fixtures at Blue full, and 3 will be all fixtures at Green full.

    Step 1 should be Group 1 at CP 1, group 2 at CP 2, and group 3 at CP 3.


    Step 2 should be group 1 at CP 2, Group 2 at CP 3 and group 3 at CP 1.

     

    Step 3 should be group 1 at CP 3, group 2 at CP 1, and group 3 at CP 2.

     

    This should do what you want it to do.


    Jeff

     

  • 0 in reply to Jeff Mabray

    ^^...the problem with this is that absolute effects do not store channel info.  You have to rely on the group / trail settings (which are not currently behaving the way we would like.. hence this discussion).  You can only specify actions, and what the target is for each action.  To achieve what you are suggesting Jeff, you would need to make a preset for each "step" and use those presets as targets for the actions.

    You would also need to set your grouping on the effect to 1

    Cheers - BFJ

  • 0 in reply to BrentFJ

    Howdy Y'all,

    Thanks for the the suggestions- great ideas.  For now, I guess the working plan would either be a step effect with palettes as on/off, or an absolute effect with presets as actions (which I hadn't thought of.)

    I really wish it could be done as a relative effect, though because you'd then still have access to the hue and saturation wheels in Live.

    I hope someone has noted the idea about selecting Groups en masse as an option for effects. 

    And how come palettes as on/off states isn't in the manual?  It doesn't exactly seem self-evident. 

    B

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  • 0 in reply to BrentFJ

    Howdy Y'all,

    Thanks for the the suggestions- great ideas.  For now, I guess the working plan would either be a step effect with palettes as on/off, or an absolute effect with presets as actions (which I hadn't thought of.)

    I really wish it could be done as a relative effect, though because you'd then still have access to the hue and saturation wheels in Live.

    I hope someone has noted the idea about selecting Groups en masse as an option for effects. 

    And how come palettes as on/off states isn't in the manual?  It doesn't exactly seem self-evident. 

    B

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