Cue Time Confusion

Hi,

you do not quite get the core concept of the console. It is a "move fade" , not a preset style console. In other words, there is no "going out" or "going in" a cue, it's more like a transition from one cue to another. The "up time" is taken from all channels that go from a lower to a higher value. The "down time" is taken by all channels going from a higher to a lower value. (Respectively focus time for all channels changing position, color time for all channels changing color and beam time for all channels changing beam parameters for these parameter groups). For further explanation I strongly recommend to read the white paper "entertainment lighting control philosophy" by Anne Valentino and Sarah Claussen. (My citation of the title might not be fully correct, but you can find it on the ETC website.

hope that helps.

Right, agreed. I don't get the core concept that's why I put the question here where more knowledgeable folks could assist. I have read the manual p256 to through 259.several times and find no mention of 'preset console'. And, "going from lower to higher and higher to lower" is I would have thought intuitive. My question was why does (what I thought was the down time on say cue 20) seem to act on the previous cue (in this case 19)? I'm keeping it simple and talking only intensity. The guy who asked me the question (bling leading the blind) also showed me in the timing column one that looked like;

(5) / 3 (7) - I.E. a little 3 between the normal up/down displays. Is this something to do with split timing (referring to one of the channels in the cue? Again, I really am wading through the manual. We're using an Element 2 by the way

this is pretty much established behaviour for most lighting consoles, and e.g. worked the same for Expression.

you're looking at the time of a transition and not the fade out time of the cue.

Cue 1: 4 / 10
Cue 2: 5 / 8
Cue 3: 1 / 6

when you're sitting in Cue 2 and press Go for Cue 3, the channels that increase intensity when going from Cue 2 to 3 will change in 1 second, the channels that decrease intensity when going from Cue 2 to 3 will change in 6 seconds.

(5) / 3 (7)

If these times are in the Intensity (Int) Up / Down Column they mean that when you hit [Go] for this cue the following will happen: Whatever intensities that should increase will increase over 5 seconds, starting immediately when you hit [Go].  Whatever intensities will be going down will wait 3 seconds after you hit [Go] and then will go down over the next 7 seconds.

To get that 3 second delay you use the [Delay] button, next to the [Time] button.

In the Duration (Dur) Column you will see a 10 for the total of 10 seconds ( 7 sec. + 3 sec. ) this cue will take to execute (assuming you don't have any moving lights moving).

Make sense? 

Actually - It does make sense. A lot. And very much appreciated. Our EXP3 was in use for about 20 years and I don't think anyone here ever changed the default timing of a cue so such "philosophies: never entered the equation. Did that [ 3 ) / 3 ( 5 ) question make sense?

Actually - It does make sense. A lot. And very much appreciated. Our EXP3 was in use for about 20 years and I don't think anyone here ever changed the default timing of a cue so such "philosophies: never entered the equation. Did that [ 3 ) / 3 ( 5 ) question make sense?

Woops. Missed the answer earlier. It was a 'delay'. Lot of learning today. Great!