rem dim

Well, if it helps, I AGREE! the position of the RemDim button is just not the right spot...although a functional key in design...it should have an option to DISABLE in desk settings. If you find out post it right away...this has happened to me twice...hit the RemDim again and your back but that second of swallowing your heart is awful.

Lance

I am a bit surprised that nobody from ETC has piped up to say that RemDim CAN be disabled from the Setup/Desk options in 1.8.

REM DIM is not a self-terminating keystroke. It requires an enter afterwards. Most of the other buttons around it are self-terminating. Seems to me like it would be pretty difficult to be plunged into darkness by this method accidentally. I've never mistakenly gone dark this way - I've done it other ways though! I don't see REM DIM as all that dangerous.

Tim

The Rem Dim Enable button in setup enables/disables rem dim in Highlight mode.  (I believe the tab actually says that).  As Luke said, to disable rem dim, you can set the value to 100%, which effectively turns it off.

We've had a rem dim function for about 20 years.  On Obsession, I'm pretty sure the key was in the same spot as it is on Eos.  We've not had problems with users considering this dangerous, because as stated, it isn't a self terminating key.

Hope this helps.

a

I think the issue might be, that Rem-Dim followed immediately by Out IS self Terminating!! And I've done it a few times myself this last week, them being so close together on the Ion (never noticed myself do it on the Eos......)

However, it's a function I use a fair amount, so it's not something I'm going to disable....just need to slim down my fingers!

And as stated before....hitting Rem-Dim again gets out of it quickly, doesn't stop the "tut" from some LD's though!

Sorry for bumping an old thread, but I too would like a way to disable this button. Last week, I accidentally hit Rem-Dim and Out at the same time, causing the whole stage to blackout. A quick Undo brought everything back up, but that mistake is very serious and could potentially cost me my job :(

In the Film/TV realm, I haven't yet found a use for RemDim, and I would much rather remove that button entirely, than keep something potentially dangerous right next to buttons that I hit all the time...

(on an Ion)

Lucky for me, I haven't mistakenly hit it...(yet)...

I'm making my setting 100, now.

Should be good with the command line entry work around, as few times as I use it!

With the large amperage sets It would/could blow the can off the wall, eh?

Yeah, if you're pulling a lot of amps, and the entire stage jumps off and on, that has definite potential to damage the cans/transformer/genny/etc.

All the more reason this button should have an optional disable feature!

Setting it to 100 helps, yes, but since [Out] is self-terminating, I believe hitting [RemDim] [Out] is the same as [RemDim] [0] [Enter], which would still blackout the stage! (I can't confirm this at the moment, since our set is live right now).

Yeah, if you're pulling a lot of amps, and the entire stage jumps off and on, that has definite potential to damage the cans/transformer/genny/etc.

All the more reason this button should have an optional disable feature!

Setting it to 100 helps, yes, but since [Out] is self-terminating, I believe hitting [RemDim] [Out] is the same as [RemDim] [0] [Enter], which would still blackout the stage! (I can't confirm this at the moment, since our set is live right now).

I dunno guys, my thought was that at some point you have to learn and remember what combination of keystrokes can get you into trouble and this seems like an example  It's not like pressing the RemDim button all by it's lonesome self yields the problems you're describing, as it's a double press.  Just like with dimmer-per-circuit systems we learned not to press key selections that bumps every channel to full.

As Anne stated, RemDim has been on ETC consoles forever and I for one use it on EVERY focus I do and do not want the current functionality changed drastically, nor the button moved.  I would bet that would be the consensus of most users.  Granted some things can be tweaked, (such as allowing a disable for RemDim) and that's why the forums here to ask those requests, but eventually they need to stop tinkering so we can remember where things are and how they function, beyond simple bug fixes.

My $.02

Steve B.

An extremely valid point, Steve. I respect and appreciate all the different ways people use the console, and wouldn't want to alter the button layout or workflow of anyone who's happy with the way things are.

Here's what happened to me last week: When trying to kill one light, my finger accidentally hit the keyboard about 1/2" too high, hitting both [RemDim] and [Out] simultaneously, which the console perceived as [RemDim] then [Out], sending everything into darkness. I understand that this was completely my fault, and not the console's. Naturally, I would like to avoid this kind of thing in the future. And since I personally don't have a use for [RemDim] at the present time, providing an optional 'disable' feature would be the perfect solution in my mind.