Color Indication on Channel Display

Jonathan, when a channel has a scroller assigned to it, the color data field is populated with both the frame number and gel number in use.  + and - indicate a condition other than full frame.  This information is only presented for a scroller parameter.  An intensity channel that happens to be controlling a scroller doesn't indicate the information in this way.

May I ask why you want it to?  There are a lot of benefits to defining a parameter what it actually is.   Non-intensity parameters are withheld from Grand Master and Inhibitive sub control (although it is possible to store a NP in an inhib, but its a very deliberate action).  In general terms, they don't move unless you actually tell them to move, thereby eliminating unneeded and unwanted parameter changes.  Scrollers defined as scrollers can be marked.  Unneeded moves are so indicated in the PSD and in About.  If you define the scroller as an intensity parameter, none of these things are available.

So, am interested to know the why part of the request.  :-)

Thanks,

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Thanks Ann,

Im sorry, i think I've confused you slightly.

What i was wondering is,

As you've said, if a channel also has a scroller attached, the channel can also show what frame it is in, or indeed what colour if a gel string has been defined.

What i am asking is, if you have a single dimmer channel, so say if i have '1 thru 6' is my L106 X Wash and '11 thru 16' is my L181 X Wash, can the gel in that fixture be shown on the display.

My reasoing is purley easy of knowing whats what is a person who has never seen the rig comes in  and whats to know whats what without flipping between plot/paperwork and desk.

Jay

Thanks Ann,

Im sorry, i think I've confused you slightly.

What i was wondering is,

As you've said, if a channel also has a scroller attached, the channel can also show what frame it is in, or indeed what colour if a gel string has been defined.

What i am asking is, if you have a single dimmer channel, so say if i have '1 thru 6' is my L106 X Wash and '11 thru 16' is my L181 X Wash, can the gel in that fixture be shown on the display.

My reasoing is purley easy of knowing whats what is a person who has never seen the rig comes in  and whats to know whats what without flipping between plot/paperwork and desk.

Jay

Ok, sorry.  I did misunderstand (I think I misunderstood :-)   Yes, Eos, Ion (and Element) have two different live displays.  One is called the channel summary view.  This view has two basic display modes.  The first is a "condensed" display, which shows just the channel's intensity.  FCB icons are presented below the intensity.  These are color coded to indicate manual, stored or submaster values on the three NP categories.  This display can also be changed to provide a summary of IFCB.  In this instance, you will see the F# and Gel number currently in your scroller.

Pressing format changes the display to a table view.  This is an extended view that, by default, shows each parameter individually.  This display can also be collapsed on an FCB basis to show of summary of the three NP categories. 

An additional view in blind is a spreadsheet view.  By default, this view shows just intensity.  It can be expanded to show any NP parameter.  (It is worth noting that while Element has these different views, the formats are fixed)

You might want to check out a post at the top of the forum that has a document describing the displays.  How the views are changed, what the symbols mean, etc.  Additionally, Ion training videos can be viewed at http://www.etcconnect.com/product.ion.tutorial.aspx.  The precepts are generally the same on Eos.

Is that a better answer??  :-)

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Anne,  I think Jay is asking if he can put a label on an intensity channel and have it show up under the channel #.  In his case, he wants to label 1-6 with L106 and 11-16 with L181.

I have to say, if this is possible, this would be great.  I found that option in SmartSoft to be a wonderful help, and would love to see it on the EOS family.

Hmmm.... OK.  (Wow, must not have had enough coffee yet!).  Yes, you can.  But at the moment, the only place it is displayed in in patch and on channel direct selects.

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You can also patch a part 2 to your intensity channels that have a single frame generic scroller with color you want.  

Yeah, if he set up a channel with a scroller with a single frame of color (L106 and L181 in this Case) it should show up in the color field.  It's not exactly like the Smart products, but it does do what he wants done.

Thanks!

I thought of doing this, but wondered if there was an actual way of doing it.

Maybe something for 1.8 or indeed 1.9 whenever that is being worked on?

Thanks for all your help

P.S sorry for the confusion Ann