Independent House Lights etc. . .

Ditto this, or allow intensity channels to be independent.

SB

x3 on this.

We are planning to add a submaster condition that excludes control from GM and blackout.  It's sort of live a dynamic park.

:-)

a

Anne,

Parked subs still won't help if you want to cue channels into the show. If you cue them in, Rem-dim, and go to cue 0 will kill these channels, which is the real issue I think. If you also have them on a sub (for safety reasons) then they won't go out as cued...

If I don't care about cueing them into the show, then parking them on or using exclusive subs work fine.

-M

Is there mileage in looking at using captured channels for this?  Captured channels will already ignore rem dim and Go to cue 0/out.  If we also excluded them from GM and Blackout control?  I'd like to try to find a way to solve this using methods we already have, rather than adding yet another new condition.   I've been having this discussion offline with some TV folks, and they'd like to see captured channels not impacted by the GM/BO anyway.

a

Anne,

Sadly, Capture makes channels manual, and consequently excludes them from moving with cues. So, to use Capture in order to have channels unaffected by rem-dim/go to 0, is actually more work than using subs...

I know that you are not keen on adding a new condition to patch, but independent channels are unspeakably beneficial and for those folk who come from legacy ETC boards they are sorely missed.

-M

Oh right, fair enough.  (Sorry Marc.... as you know, its been a long day!!)  What you are really looking for (lets lose the work independent here for a second - I realize that is what it was called in the legacy products, but that indicates something else to me), is a condition for intensity parameters where they are treated like NPs, except in their ability to be programmed either LTP or HTP.    And of course, are treated like regular intensity channels when stored to a sub.

a

Bullseye!

You could call them Magical Fish Cake channels or anything else you want, as long as we could have that functionality.

As I've said before, the only reason I don't make a custom fixture with the Intensity as an NIP is we need to able to quickly bring them up from the RFR.

Thanks Anne!

-M

if i may put my two sense in -from the obsession 1500, i do miss the independent function. this would make any channel unaffected by the GM/Blackout...

It would be nice to have a submaster state like the Strand had with what they called "Exclusive" (you'll have to think of another name)  A channel put into this sub couldn't be controlled by ANYTHING.  You couldn't  call it up on the channel select or record into cues. Great for house lights, work lights, Running lights.  To gain control over it you had to go into sub page and remove it from the sub it was assigned to.

It would be nice to have a submaster state like the Strand had with what they called "Exclusive" (you'll have to think of another name)  A channel put into this sub couldn't be controlled by ANYTHING.  You couldn't  call it up on the channel select or record into cues. Great for house lights, work lights, Running lights.  To gain control over it you had to go into sub page and remove it from the sub it was assigned to.

There is an exclusive mode that keeps the contents of a sub from being recorded into cues, but you can still access that subs channels and record them into cues as needed by manually selecting them.  I find this setting useful when I need to have house lights on and recording looks on stage.  I would really like intensity independents as there are often times that I am running a show on the fly, and I want to dim everything except chosen movers, or bring the house lights up when the master is down.

I have written inhibitive subs for this purpose in the past, but things would be easier with a FULLY independent submaster setting.