fade times on a fader?

Hi there.  No, not at the moment.  The timing assigned to the bump is always for the action of the sub without using the potentiometer.  We assume when you move the pot, you want manual control only.

Hope that helps.

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Thanks for the reply, at least I know I'm not missing something :)

I guess the option to have it one way or the other would be nice.  It's nice to be able to have scenes on a fader or groups of lights and be able to bring things up manually in a repeatable and smooth way on the fly.  Especially with the smaller faders and twitchy movers it can be tough to be really smooth sometimes.

Well, that was really the intent of putting timing on the bump button.  Can you tell me why that doesn't work for you?

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I guess I could hit bump then put the fader to full after it fades in and that would accomplish the same thing.  then to fade out I could hit bump again, bring the fader down, then release bump.  but that's all kinda a pain in the butt and not practical if you're moving several faders at once.

in another room we have a strand console and you can assign fade times to the faders.  so when we're running a show live I can just bring a fader to 100% when a scene starts without worrying about being smooth and it'll smoothly fade up and the fade time is repeatable.  rather than having to hold bump until I want to take the lights out I just leave the fader up.  at the end of the scene I can bring the fader down quickly to 0% and not worry about being smooth, just let the fade time do that for me.

unless the bump could be changed to a toggle in the menu there's no other way to do what I'm talking about with the Ion but that kinda defeats the point of the bump anyway.  to me there needs to be either a separate set of fade in/out time for the fader (normally defaulted to 0 seconds) or an option to apply the bump fade times to the fader as well.  either option would be great and accomplish what I'm looking to do.  maybe that's not what people normally use faders for but I use that all the time on our strand console.

thanks!

A sub time has up/dwell/down time options in the sub screen. If you set the dwell time to 'Hold' you will achieve what you are looking for - 1 push to fade up, and on the next push it fades down. 

Hope this helps

You can also just use [Sub][x]{Hold}[Enter].

If it is not used this way all the time, write a macro to do it over a time: [Sub][x][Full][Sneak][5][Enter].

-luke-

thanks guys, I'll try those out tomorrow when I'm at work :)

If you are looking for all timed operation, there is no need to move the fader handle at all.   The LED will pulse when the fader is "active."  So, really, unless you want to have a timed fade up, but bring the level out manually, you can just leave the fader at 0.

:-)

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harryt said:

A sub time has up/dwell/down time options in the sub screen. If you set the dwell time to 'Hold' you will achieve what you are looking for - 1 push to fade up, and on the next push it fades down. 

Hope this helps

that's the closest to what I want but only works on faders that you want to go to 100% on and you're stuck with whatever fade time you set.  I still would rather have the option to have the fade time applied to the fader instead of only the bump.  for example I just want the house lights to fade smoothly but I don't want them at 100%.  say I want to fade smoothly up to 50%, with this method I'd have to record house in the fader to 50%, but then I can't go to 100% unless I record another fader at 100% and use that.  so I would have to have the same lights on multiple faders just to have different intensities.

on the strand console we have in another room I'd have a fade up and down time set to the fader of say 3 seconds.  if you abruptly moved the fader from 0% to 75% it would still take 3 seconds to go from 0% to 75%.  if you went quickly from 0% to 100% it would take that same three seconds but go to 100%.  now if I wanted it to go slower than 3 seconds I could manually fade it slower but the minimum time would be 3 seconds now matter how fast the fader moved.  this lets us smoothly fade to any intensity and the fade time smooths out any abrupt movements.

the room with the Ion console is used by our school a lot and we're trying to get the kids plugged in.  it's hard enough to get them to pay attention let alone to be smooth with faders :)  having a time assigned to the fader makes it easier for everyone.

plus with recording moving light looks to the faders or different presets it would be nice to have a fade time to help smooth things over when using things live and not programed into cues.  maybe I'm the only one asking for this but I thought it was a standard kinda thing since I've used this feature for so long.

Hmmm.... well, you can currently sneak a sub to a level over time.  [Sub] [x] [at] [50] [Sneak] [5] [Enter].  Probably the closest current solution.

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Anne Valentino said:

Hmmm.... well, you can currently sneak a sub to a level over time.  [Sub] [x] [at] [50] [Sneak] [5] [Enter].  Probably the closest current solution.

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I guess so, thanks!

I must say I have to agree with candyman on this one. I too liked the ability to set a level with the handle and let the console do its smooth fade. I was hoping it would just eventually show up like in the strand consoles. I know about all the workarounds too, and while they may be easy to do, I'd prefer the additional option to put subs into a timed mode.

I must say I have to agree with candyman on this one. I too liked the ability to set a level with the handle and let the console do its smooth fade. I was hoping it would just eventually show up like in the strand consoles. I know about all the workarounds too, and while they may be easy to do, I'd prefer the additional option to put subs into a timed mode.