EOS Doubts

#1 - to remove data from a cue, select that channel, the parameter you are interested in and press @ Enter.  If you do this in live, it will result in a tracked value from the previous cue that then needs to be stored.   If you do this in blind, it still results in a tracked value from the previous cue, but the change is automatically stored.    If you want to remove from the entire cue list (this is most easily done in blind) - select your first cue thru enter.  This selects all cues in the list.  Select the channel and the parameter you are interested in and @ enter.  This removes the data from the cue list entirely.  If you are working with an intensity only channel, you can just select that channel (at enter removes data for the entire channel unless you specify a parameter).  If you need the channel in parts of the cue list but not others, you can null the data in blind.  Select the cue range you want to remove the data from, followed by the channel number and then [make null] enter.

When you record a cue, if that channel is sitting with a manual zero (red) we will store a zero in the cue.  If you don't want the manual zero stored, sneak it prior to the record action.   If the channel you are talking about is a multi-parameter device, if you use the record button we will store a zero value for the channel (if it is off) if you have any data for the rest of the channel (record stores all parameters of any devices that are in use).  You can use (Record Only) to store only the manual information.

#2.  In 1.7, we changed it so that the thru command is routed through the information in the current flexi-channel mode.  As such, it does not select channels outside of your current flexi state (unless the entire channel range is outside of the current flexi state, in which case it will).  To select in a thru range and grab channels that may not be included in the current flexi state, use thru thru.    The same is true of using the address key.   We do this to facilitate doing an address or channel check of only specific channels (such as "show channels).

the "Active" flexi mode is actually "Active and Moved" (but that really doesn't fit on the button).  So, if you have just set a channel to zero, it will be displayed in the "active" flexi mode, until that zero value becomes a track.

Hope that helps.

a

EDIT: Apparently I left the window open to long and Anne got there first. Disregard below. 

Hello Ajaya,

A quick response that will hopefully get you started.

For removing the 0% intensities. I assume that you have redundant 0's (show as white) that are preventing proper tracking. Meaning in your cue list, under the Flags column (B) do you have lots and lots of "b"'s next to the cues with the extra 0's?

There are several ways to accomplish this and I'm sure someone will reply after me with a better way, but the way I am most comfortable with is [at] [enter].  At Enter is remove value. In Blind,  [7] [at] [enter] would remove the  value from channel 7 in the current cue.  For example in cue 1, channel 7 is at 80% and in cue 2 it was at 90%.  When in blind looking at cue 2. Channel 7 would now show a blue 90. Blue meaning going up in intensity (blue is the color of the sky and the sky is up. Green = ground = going down. ) If in blind cue 2 you were now to type [7] [at] [enter] it would change from the blue 90% to a purple (tracking) 80%. Cue 2 now contains no move data for channel 7. You can do this across a range of channels using [Thru]. You can also enter spreadsheet and use [thru[ for a series of channels through a range of cues. 

As for your second question regarding active channel. I think what you are looking through is [Thru] [Thru]. I don't remember when that was implemented or if it has been all along, but just in case. 

When in Active Channel, when you use [Thru] just once, it will only select Active channels in the series that you have selected. If you press [Thru] twice, you will be able to select all channes in the range that you selected. 

Again an example. So Your active channel shows Channels 1,2,5,6,7,12,14,201,202,203. If you type [1] [Thru] [203], you will only grab control of the 10 active channels displayed on your screen. If you type  [1] [Thru] [Thru] [203], you will grab control of all 203 channels and they all will show up on your screen.

Does that help you at all? I hope I understood your question correctly. If not, please don't hesitate to ask again.

Thank you,

Dear Anne,

Hope you are fine. Many thanks for your information’s.

I am repeating the question again and kindly describe, How to delete the 0% (Zero) Intensity channels permanently from a Cue? Our Cues are recorded in CUE ONLY MODE.

Example, I play a Cue and the recorded channels Intensity shown the Active channels window (Including Intensity Parameters and Non Intensity Parameters). Now I need to OFF some channels and I put the commands [Ch] [#] [OUT] [ENTER]. Or using the Fader Wheel to make the Intensity will be Zero. Then I need to save that modification to that Cue. I put the commands [RECORD] or [RECORD ONLY] then [CUE] [#] [ENTER]. After that I can see the OFF channel is shown ZERO in LIVE & BLIND.

Presently I can see lot of not using 0% Intensity channels on the Cue Play back Window. (Blue color 0).  Why the 0% Intensity channels shown a running Cue?

I like to delete that Recorded or saved 0% Intensity channels permanently from the Cue. What kind of commands?

First we select all of the 0% Intensity channels for delete function (Commands?)

After deleted that channels then record that Cue in other empty Cue number or the same Cue (Commands?)

Kindly inform me the Commands in step by step. I am expecting your valuable help.

Thank you very much from Ajaya Dubai

Dear Mr Travis,

Hope you are fine. Many thanks for your information’s.

I am repeating the question again and kindly describe, How to delete the 0% (Zero) Intensity channels permanently from a Cue? Our Cues are recorded in CUE ONLY MODE.

Example, I play a Cue and the recorded channels Intensity shown the Active channels window (Including Intensity Parameters and Non Intensity Parameters). Now I need to OFF some channels and I put the commands [Ch] [#] [OUT] [ENTER]. Or using the Fader Wheel to make the Intensity will be Zero. Then I need to save that modification to that Cue. I put the commands [RECORD] or [RECORD ONLY] then [CUE] [#] [ENTER]. After that I can see the OFF channel is shown ZERO in LIVE & BLIND.

Presently I can see lot of not using 0% Intensity channels on the Cue Play back Window. (Blue color 0).  Why the 0% Intensity channels shown a running Cue?

I like to delete that Recorded or saved 0% Intensity channels permanently from the Cue. What kind of commands?

First we select all of the 0% Intensity channels for delete function (Commands?)

After deleted that channels then record that Cue in other empty Cue number or the same Cue (Commands?)

Kindly inform me the Commands in step by step. I am expecting your valuable help.

Thank you very much from Ajaya Dubai

The first time you record a cue with a channel at zero - if it has not be used in a the cue list at all - you will see a blue zero.  In Eos, there is a difference between NO intensity and an intensity of zero.  Zero is considered a higher value than "nothing", therefore it will be blue.    If you end up with data in a cue that you don't want, you can either use the delete function - or the [at] [enter] function.   These commands can be done from live or blind.   I personally prefer to do it in blind - and I prefer to use the [at] [Enter] command - But either will work.  And keep in mind that because you are in cue only mode, the changes you are doing will be required in each and every cue, unless you append the QOnly/Track command with each action.

Blind.  Select the Cue Number (press Enter).  Select the channel and press [at] [Enter] - that removes a move instruction from a cue.   Please remember that Eos is a tracking console.  Therefore, this action tracks the value in from the previous cue.

Blind.  Select the Cue Number (press enter).  Delete channel n enter.  This removes the current instruction.  Again, though, please remember that Eos is a tracking console  This action is the exact same as [at] [Enter].

To remove a channel from the entire cue list.  Blind.  Cue 1 thru Enter.  Channel n at enter.

It might be useful for you to have a play with both of these command in blind spreadsheet - where you can see the results of your actions (to access blind spreadsheet, go to blind and press the format button until you see a display that shows channels on the horizontal axis and cue on the vertical axis.  You might also look at appending the QOnly/Track button before enter if working with a single cue.

I hope that helps.  It might also be useful if you could tell us (and that would be us, as in all of you forum guys) what desk you are used to working with.  We might be able to draw some parallels that will be helpful.

I know you've been in touch with Corey.  We had an offline discussion yesterday. Maybe he can help talk you through this if it confusing....

Let us know how it goes.

a

Dear Anne,

Hope you are fine. Many thanks for your detailed information’s. Our News channel studio using EOS console is the Backup and RPU is the Master. (1.9.1 Software we upgraded 26 Sept 2010). Other Studio using ION (1.9.1 software we upgraded 26 Sept 2010).

Our EOS, I deleted unwanted 0% Intensity channels from the cue in Blind mode. It’s worked perfectly. In LIVE I put the same command [#] [@] [Enter] the value shown RED color Zero. Then the [sneak] [Enter] command moves the previous status of that channel. In Live how can delete that 0% Intensity channels from a running cue? After the [#] [@] [Enter] commands need to be [Record] or [Record only] [cue] commands or [Delete] commands? Please describe.

Question 1:- In my Cue, I can see lot of unwanted channels in 0% Intensity and that channel numbers are different. Example 1-0%, 5-50%, 6-0%, 10-75%,12-0%, 15- 45%, 18-0%, 20- 65%, 21, 22, 23-0%, 25, 26- FL. I need to delete the 0% Intensity channels only. I can select 1+6+12+18+21thru23 [@] [Enter] in Blind and those 0% channels are deleted from the cue. It takes more time to selecting the channels one by one and any other easy one command to select the same Intensity channels for the Delete or Intensity UP or Down function?

Question 2:- We are using lot of Sub masters and the previous eos software (1.4) shown the preview of the sub master recorded channels and Intensity only.  [BLIND] [SUB] [#] [Enter] then can see the recorded different channels in one row without showing other empty channel Tiles on the monitor.  That was very easy to read quickly. Now (1.9.1) in Blind sub preview is showing all the channel tiles in between the different recorded channels. How can I see the Sub recorded channels preview in one Row? (That means different channels showing near to near without showing the empty channel tile). Please open attached file for more details.

Kindly describe and expecting your valuable help.

Thank you very much from Ajaya Dubai

Ajaya,

Question 1:- [Query @ 0 Enter] should select all channels that show a level of zero.

Question 2:- Have you tried the Flexi state, Active Channels in the Blind Sub screen?

Hope this helps, B

Dear Mr Smith,

Many thanks for your answer and I try to my eos (1.9.9) and perfectly working.

Question 1:- 14 Sept 2010 I installed the 1.9 Offline to my desktop (Windows XP). Then I try to open our working eos show file to desktop offline. The show file not opens and can see the FAILED message. Why it’s not open?

I am expecting your valuable reply,

Thanks from Ajaya Dubai.