Finding "BLUE ZERO's" ... a new approach..

Hi,

as discussed before, people sometimes want to get rid of "0" values for channels that never have values greater than 0. Most commonly these 0's end up in the cues because of "not sneaking manual 0's". 

So, to get rid of them you need to find them. I tried the following syntax and it seems to work for me in a small example showfile. Would someone else care to try this aswell ?

 

[Query] {Is in} <First Cue> [Thru] [-] [-] [Group] [Cue] <First Cue> [Thru] [Enter]

 

Have a close look at the commandline; you will need to enter [-] twice ! This can also be written as a macro of corse...

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In Deutsch:

Um die allseits bekannten blauen Nullen eliminieren zu können muss man erstmal die Channels finden, die zwar mit "0", aber nie mit einem Wert größer 0 gespeichert sind. In meinem kleinen Versuchsaufbau scheint folgender Syntax zu funktionieren; vielleicht möchte das ja mal jemand an seinem Showfile ausprobieren ?

 

[Query] {Is in} <First Cue> [Thru] [-] [Group] [Cue] <First Cue> [Thru] [Enter]

 

Das [-] muss zweimal gedrückt werden. Ein Blick auf die Kommandozeile bei der Eingabe erklärt dies...

Funktioniert auch als Macro.

 

 

Cheers, Matze

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  • super! bei uns klappt das.

    Als Macroidee:
    erst in´s Blind, alles Cues selectieren, dann deinen Query-IsIn-Block, (evtl. SelectLast), @Enter, zurück ins Live.

    Kreise die nur auf Effecten laufen sollten dabei nicht rausgeschmissen werden.
    Werd das nachher mal testen. Auch ob man das SelectLast braucht.

    Hat noch jemand noch eine Idee, was versehentlich dabei rausfliegen könnte.

    Matze super Idee! Vielen Dank.
    Vielleicht schiebst Du das nochmal English hinterher.

    Gruß aus Cottbus

  • translation:

    "great, here it works! maybe, when used as a macro: go to Blind, select all cues, then the above mentioned Query-IsIn-Section, (maybe SelectLast), @Enter, back to Live.

    nothing should happen to channels that are only part of effects, will test later. will also test, if the SelectLast is really needed.

    can anyone think of something else that could get wiped by mistake?

    thanks to Matze, great idea!"

    greetings from switzerland

    Ueli

  • Das Makro geht super!
    Effekte werden nicht rausgeschmissen.
    Leider geht die Umschaltung in´s BLIND nicht per Makro.

    Daher hab ich ein cooles Makro geschrieben.
    Erst per Hand in´s BLIND:

    nach dem Makro kann man die Channels nochmal kurz prüfen und mit   [ENTER]   das löschen bestätigen.

    Matze... super Job! thanks!

    Grüße aus Cottbus auch in die Schweiz an den Translator Ueli (-:  danke

    EDIT: The Macro is only searching in Cue1!
    here is the new Version:

    Sorry!

    Jetzt klappt´s ...



    [edited by: theblackmoon at 11:40 AM (GMT -6) on Wed, Jun 8 2011]
  • Hi Mike,

     

    gute Idee mit dem "Flexi Selected" !

     

    Freut mich, dass es klappt :)

     

    Translation:

    Mike is suggesting a Macro as shown on the picture which -after going to BLIND- will select and show just the channels with just a "0" value. Also included is the [@] so you only have to confirm / terminate the commandline with [Enter] and the 0's will be gone...

     

    I think this is a great idea, Mike !

     

     

    Cheers, Matze

  • I tried this macro yesterday on the Ion and it came up with an error message after pressing enter.

  • you have "blue-zeros" before using the macro?
    when you don´t have "blue-zeros" then you will become the messege error: "Fehler: Kreisliste ist leer" (in german)

    what write the error?

    you can check it in LIVE
    [Query] {Is in} <First Cue> [Thru] [-] [-] [Group] [Cue] <First Cue> [Thru] [Enter]
    here you become selected the blue zeros

  • Yes i had put blue zero's in various cues across the show to try out the macro

    Neither of these macros seem to work for me in Live or Blind on the consol or OLE

    I get the error message: Channel List is Empty

  • i think you are locking for all blue zeros...
    the macro is loocking for channels with the highest intensity "0%".
    you are saving the channels when you don´t "sneak" the channels.

    Please read the first Post from Matze (this is super English) about the Macro-Idea.

    Channel List is Empty: you don´t have channels with the highest intensity "0" (blue-zeros)!

  • Hi Sammy !

     

    Sammy said:

    Yes i had put blue zero's in various cues across the show to try out the macro

    Neither of these macros seem to work for me in Live or Blind on the consol or OLE

    I get the error message: Channel List is Empty

     

    Would you mind sending me your showfile so I can have a look ? You can send it to

    matthias.strobel@etcconnect.com

    A quick hint to the channels of which you know they should become selected would help I guess...

     

    I just tried it on the Ion OLE and it worked, even with unpatched channels.

     

    Cheers, Matze

  • Hi Matthias,

    I believe I originally hadn't grasped the use of this macro. I presume from the results of the macro:

    Query Is_In First Cue Thru - Group First Cue Thru Enter

    That you are trying to find which channels aren't being used across the whole show. This is nice but even though it tell me which channels have blue zeros across the show i still need to go get rid of them.

    Query Is not In First Cue Thru Enter - would find the channels with no values but wouldn't count the channels with a blue zero which is why you would use the first macro in this email. Would there be a way of merging them together?


    As to the other macro on the forums:

    Cue 1 Thru Enter
    Flexi_Selected Query Is_In Cue 1 Thru - Group 1 Thru Enter

    I can't seem to get that to work at all.

    I usually get rid of these blue zeros as I go through a show, and am quite good with the sneak feature and so apologies but thought your macro enabled me to find blue zero's throughout the whole show, even if they had values above zero in that same show. A little mix up as I was expecting to see more channels in a flexi select.

     

     

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  • Hi Matthias,

    I believe I originally hadn't grasped the use of this macro. I presume from the results of the macro:

    Query Is_In First Cue Thru - Group First Cue Thru Enter

    That you are trying to find which channels aren't being used across the whole show. This is nice but even though it tell me which channels have blue zeros across the show i still need to go get rid of them.

    Query Is not In First Cue Thru Enter - would find the channels with no values but wouldn't count the channels with a blue zero which is why you would use the first macro in this email. Would there be a way of merging them together?


    As to the other macro on the forums:

    Cue 1 Thru Enter
    Flexi_Selected Query Is_In Cue 1 Thru - Group 1 Thru Enter

    I can't seem to get that to work at all.

    I usually get rid of these blue zeros as I go through a show, and am quite good with the sneak feature and so apologies but thought your macro enabled me to find blue zero's throughout the whole show, even if they had values above zero in that same show. A little mix up as I was expecting to see more channels in a flexi select.

     

     

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  • Sammy said:

     

    That you are trying to find which channels aren't being used across the whole show. This is nice but even though it tell me which channels have blue zeros across the show i still need to go get rid of them.

    Well once you find the channels you can just store a group with them and then use [@] [Enter]  .  I usually have an interim "working group" 900 to record things like that to.

    theblackmoon actually suggested adding the [@] [Enter] to the Macro so the values are deleted in the same context. 

    And yes, as you mentioned, my suggestion was meant to find just the channels that never have values greater than "0" in the show.

    Your idea is to get rid of "0" if the channel doesn't get a greater value afterwards ? Hmm..I see your point but wouldn't this also be dangerous sometimes ? I am thinking about "Block" .. I will think about a merge idea though...

     

    Thanks for the shared thoughts...

    Matze

  • new MacroVersion in the "Picture"-Post!!!

    Sorry...

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