HES Studio Spot CMY and CMY Zoom have different colors

Hey gang,

I have seent this on both an EOS and an Ion running 1.9.6:

We have a mix of HES Studio Spot 575 CMY and CMY Zoom fixtures in our inventory.  We have discovered that wen using the color picker, we get DIFFERENT colors/values for a color on the zoom than the non-zoom (the non-zoom is the correct color - the zoom is WAY off).  Has anyone else seen this?

If you type in the values manually, the colors will match across the 2 fixtures correctly.  If we use the color picker, they do not, so it is clearly something in the fixture profile

Thoughts?

Thanks!

dave B.

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  • FWIW, I have 6 Studio Spot CMY Zooms and have never found the pick to gel number method to be anywhere near accurate.  I would suspect that due to the age of the fixture, that the profile written for ETC was poorly done.

    Note that I never complained, as it is in reality, an ancient fixture that has dismal CMY mixing to tints in any event, and I just went and built up my own favorites for the Color Palette.

    Steve Bailey

    Brooklyn College

     

     

  • Hi Steve,

    I would totally get that except the Zoom is really just an "add-on" module to the original CMY unit (it disables/takes the place of the diffusion attribute), so the profile "should" be the same as the CMY except there's a zoom atribute in place of the diffusion.  It has to be in the prfile, because I can patch them as original CMY units and the color picker works perfectly, as soon as you replace the diffusion with a zoom, it messes up the color values.

    Makes no sense to me....

    dave

  • Have you checked to see that the zoom profile is up to date? I had issues with some cxi's not showing the correct color. When I updated the profile they worked correctly. Just note that if you update the profile it could affect any data you have previously stored for those units.



    [edited by: bosox242 at 3:59 PM (GMT -6) on Tue, Oct 18 2011]
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    davebsstage said:

    Hi Steve,

    I would totally get that except the Zoom is really just an "add-on" module to the original CMY unit (it disables/takes the place of the diffusion attribute), so the profile "should" be the same as the CMY except there's a zoom atribute in place of the diffusion.  It has to be in the prfile, because I can patch them as original CMY units and the color picker works perfectly, as soon as you replace the diffusion with a zoom, it messes up the color values.

    Makes no sense to me....

    dave

    Does it work to make a copy of the non-zoom fixture profile and add the extra attribute?

    -Steve Martin

     

  • Hi Steve,

    No, not at all.... In fact, I have found that even making a copy of the fixture, without changing any atributes, "breaks" the color.... Strange to say the least....

    bosox242: How does one update the profiles?

    dave



    [edited by: davebsstage at 6:29 AM (GMT -6) on Wed, Oct 19 2011]
  • you only get the fixture update function, if you have a showfile with fixtures that are older than the personalities of the current library version, usually a showfile created in an older version of the software.

    from the manual:

    "Update Library
    When a new library is installed on Eos Family consoles (for example, included in a software
    update), changes in library data will not automatically update your show files. This is to prevent
    library changes from affecting a functional show file.
    Using the {Fixtures} softkey in patch will open up the list of fixtures used in the current show file. In
    this view, you will be able to tell which fixtures in the currently loaded show file differ from the
    console's fixture library. For fixtures that have a library update, the {Update Lib} softkey will display
    in white, and for fixtures that don't have an update, the {Update Lib} softkey will be greyed out."

     

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  • you only get the fixture update function, if you have a showfile with fixtures that are older than the personalities of the current library version, usually a showfile created in an older version of the software.

    from the manual:

    "Update Library
    When a new library is installed on Eos Family consoles (for example, included in a software
    update), changes in library data will not automatically update your show files. This is to prevent
    library changes from affecting a functional show file.
    Using the {Fixtures} softkey in patch will open up the list of fixtures used in the current show file. In
    this view, you will be able to tell which fixtures in the currently loaded show file differ from the
    console's fixture library. For fixtures that have a library update, the {Update Lib} softkey will display
    in white, and for fixtures that don't have an update, the {Update Lib} softkey will be greyed out."

     

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