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So i'll try to give the picture:

Numerous cue lists placed on multiple faders. Let's take cue list 1 on fader 1 as an example but they all do it. Fader set as iMaster, HTP and Assert.

Cue 1/1 has a couple of colors and some gobos but all static. No movement.

Cue 1/2 has the same however colors switch fixtures.

Cue 1/3 now has one set of movers with a very slow rotating gobo.

Cue 1/4 has the same but more movers with a very slow rotating gob.

Speed of course doesn't really matter here.

Cue 1/4 is linked to 1 so that it can be tapped over and over and it will continue making changes.

I tap the bottom bump on fader 1 to set cue 1/1 then bring up the fader. Cue 1/1 runs. I then tap through the next 3 cues and all changes happen as recorded.

When it goes from cue 1/4 back to cue 1/1 everything changes to the cue 1/1 look but the gobos keep rotating. If when in 1/1 the top bump is tapped it will send everything into white home then out. When tapping the bottom bump back on again for cue 1/1 then it does what is supposed to do.

Only when tapping backwards from 4 to 3 to 2 to 1 or from 3 to 2 to 1 will cue 1/1 show as recorded.

Thoughts?

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luke.delwiche over 13 years ago

You'll want an Assert Flag on Cue 1/1, that will make sure it plays back without the rotating Gobo in it.
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Anne Valentino over 13 years ago in reply to luke.delwiche

If you don't have a gobo rotation setting stored in your first cue, the gobo will continue to rotate, even with an assert on it. The assert function takes a tracked value and makes it behave like a move instruction on playback. If the gobo rotation is not stored in the cue, it won't be impacted by the assert at all. So you need to write the default gobo rotation value into your first cue to make the rotation stop.

Hope that helps.

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Anne Valentino over 13 years ago in reply to luke.delwiche

If you don't have a gobo rotation setting stored in your first cue, the gobo will continue to rotate, even with an assert on it. The assert function takes a tracked value and makes it behave like a move instruction on playback. If the gobo rotation is not stored in the cue, it won't be impacted by the assert at all. So you need to write the default gobo rotation value into your first cue to make the rotation stop.

Hope that helps.

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Jeff Toussieng over 13 years ago in reply to Anne Valentino

now im a little confused. i recorded 1/1 with all defaults except gobo type, color, etc which i thought was why it doesnt rotate in 1/1. what do i need to change when recording? or anotherwords why does it not rotate in 1/1? is default not an actual recorded ommand?
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mattccox over 13 years ago in reply to Jeff Toussieng

Unless you tell the gobo not to rotate in cue 1/1, it will continue to do whatever it was doing previously. The gobo rotation parameter needs to be a hard value in cue 1/1, for the gobo to stop rotating from cue 1/4 to cue 1/1.

When recording, you need to specifically tell the console to not rotate the gobo. As it is right now, in cue 1/1, the console is not programmed to rotate the gobo, but it is also not programmed to not rotate the gobo.

Tracking=Clear as mud...right?
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RHye over 13 years ago in reply to mattccox

Hi there,

would it be an idea to record the last cue as q-only?

greetings

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jrgoss over 13 years ago in reply to RHye

Recording the last cue in a cue list as cue only simply says "don't track these changes forward". Anne & mattccox's answer seems to be an apt description of the OP.
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Jeff Toussieng over 13 years ago in reply to mattccox

without being in front on my console i can only think what i would do to tell it to not rotate and that would be "home" which is no rotation. Or click the selection directly for static which is what i thought was the default. the rotating gobo wheel wont rotate them unless "rot" is selected. Cant see why color, actual gobo selection, focus, etc all go back to 1/1 but rotate tracks.

i dont want to take this any further untill i get to the console which wont be until tonight earliest.
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