ION changing cues

Am I to understand you are using multiple cue lists on top of each other to create a look onstage? Then you want to bring up a cue that will take control and diminish the other cues that are present?

If you had a few cues you new you wanted to use solely as a fixed look you could make those cues both an Assert Cue and an All Fade. This would mean after pressing go they would take control over channels that have a current value/status from another cue list, and All fade will fade whats not in that cue to 0. 

Would that solve your problem?

If you're running v1.9.8, going to Fader Controls and pressing Release with both fader bump buttons clears the stack and resets to first cue in the list

Example: I have 10 cue lists each recorded with a type of tempo in mind, Fast song, Medium song, Slow song,  Each cue list has 4 cues in it.  Cue list 1 is on fader 1 and is for slow songs (pinks and blues with very little or very slow movement),  Cue list 2 is on fader 2 and is for medium songs (greens and whites with a little faster movement),  Cue list 3 is on fader 3 for fast songs (yellows and oranges with a lot of movement), and so on.  The slow, medium and fast are of course repeated a lot of times but with different combinations of colors, effects, etc.

Band first song is slow.  I set cue 1/1 by tapping the bottom bump on fader 1.  Song starts I bring up fader 1 for intensity.  As the song progresses I tap the bottom bump for various subtle changes as I progress through the 4 cues.  I might make it through a list a few times and I might only end up doing 2 or 3 of the cues.  Lets say I end at 1/3.

Band second song is fast.  I set cue 3/1 by tapping the bottom bump on fader 3 but keep fader 1 up for intensity  I actually do nothing with any other fader.  When I tap fader 3 bottom bump it switches from whatever is currently showing in cue list 1 (in my example that would be 1/3) to cue list 3 cue 1 (3/1).  It is a flash change not a slow fade change.  I then progress through those 4 cues as needed for that song and end at cue 1, 2, 3 or 4 as well.  Lets say I end at 3/2.

At this point fader 1 is stil at full intensity and set at 1/3 and fader 3 is still down but set at 3/2.

Band third song is mediium.  I set cue 2/1 by tapping the bottom bump on fader 2 but still keep fader 1 up for intensity and again do nothing with the actual fader 2..  Again it flashes from 3/2 to 2/1 and again I go through the 4 cues as needed in cue list 2.  Lets say this time I end up at 2/4.

So now fader 1 intensity is still at ful and it is still set at 1/3 as well as fader 2 is still down and set at 2/4 and fader 3 is still down and is set at 3/2.

Now it's time for the "fixed look"  Band stops and someone is going to do a talk on stage, or a prize give away, etc.  I cross fade fader 1 with sub 30, which is my "fixed" look and all fixtures cross over to the sub 30 look.  Now the only difference is fader 1 intensity is at zero.  Fader 1, 2 and 3 still have the same cues set on them.

At this point I want to reset all cue lists back to zero to be ready to start fresh when the next song set begins.  If I tap the top or back cue bump button on any one of those three faders it will reset my "fixed" look to white and home.  So can't touch those bumps at all at this point.

If I gotocue out it damages the "fixed" look sub also.

In situations where a band plays very hard rock or heavy metal extremly fast songs I will actually run the lights like a keyboard, taping bumps back and forth all over the place throughout my assortment of cue lists because it's impossible to manually make changes that fast.   When they are done most or all of the faders are set at some cue.  So in this example all 10 cue lists are sitting in one of their 4 cues.

So I want to be able to reset all those cue lists to zero to be able to start fresh on the next song list when the band starts playing again without affecting the "fixed" look currently running.

Your answer might work.  I'll have to give it a try.  I'm assuming you are suggesting I record my "fixed" look as another cue list with a single cue rather than a sub and set that cue list as Assert and All fade.  I have already tried Assert but that didn't change anything.  I have not set All fade.  Is that something I will be able to locate easily in the 1.9.8 manual becsue I have not yet used it? :-)  I'll definately give it a try.

I'd have to do that on every one of my faders individually and in my case I actually have 40 cue lists; 20 for led drapes independently and 20 for all other fixtues.  I'm also not sure that still won't affect the current look on stage, which in my case would be a sub.  I want to be able to reset all of them at one time without affecting the current look on stage.

Try this:

On the cues you want to have as a static look and reset the other faders you can put an execute on those cues e.g.

[Cue] [4] [/] [1] [Execute] [1] [/] [0] [Enter]

[Execute] [2] [/] [0] [Enter]

[Execute] [3] [/] [0] [Enter]

[Execute] [X] [/] [0] [Enter]

This will mean when going into cue 4/1 it will execute the command for yours faders controlling cue list 2, cue list 3, and x to go to cue 0 e.g back to the beginning.

The only problem which may still be there is your live state changing. The problem is if you are using more than one cue list and then release it, it will change the live state as you are taking away lights onstage. This is something you expect to happen as you are releasing them. you wouldn't release them unless you wanted those lights to change. I might have missed something but try my suggestion, maybe thats solved your problem.

A quick idea to solve that problem would be having a macro like:

[Select Active] [Make Manual] [Enter] - You would use this before going into your static state cue, or you could even apply it to the cue with all of your execute x/0, then when you're happy for the state to change and fall back solely on your static state look, you can use [Select Active] [Sneak] [Enter]

You'll need to check it, but Go To Cue Zero, Enter takes levels out.  Go to Cue Out and to Zero do not over-ride sub levels.

If you had a touch screen, maybe leave a Direct Select screen open for Macros, and configure a one button push, screen macro to do the above.  

SB

It seems to work on the offline editor looking at fader controls. Let us know if you have any problem.

Hi Steve,

I didn't realise there was subs running as well I thought it was just faders with cue lists on them. I'm sure you can incorporate a Sub 1 Thru 5 @ 0 Enter macro somewhere if that was the case.

This all seems a bit over complicated... 

I'll have to try these suggestions to see if any work.  Again, would using a single cue cue list instead of a sub be better for my "fixed" look or would it even matter?