Tracking

Most likely you are doubling the cue-only commands.

1. The button is a toggle between tracking and cue-only mode. Whichever state you are normally in adding this command will set the other mode.
2. Look at the top of your channel screen, right under Live Channel (or whatever mode you're in.) It should say "tracking" or "cue only" to show how the current default mode is set.

This seems to be a fairly common beginners confusion.

Hi Kevin

I think that you are essentially missing a Block command out of your sequence. It's not necessarily this straight forward though.

Because you've gone to Cue Out and created your state, this command will Home the intensities (and parameters) of all your fixtures and dimmers, therefore not giving them a hard value (Home is essentially a null value). Without a hard value, they will not have a Move instruction, so will track the previous cue intensity values.

The ideal way to create a new cue between the two existing cues would be... (using your examples).

Be in Cue 10.

Select Active Out (to get a blackout, to start your new state from a clear stage). Or only remove the channels that you don't want.

Create your new look from the Blackout.

Record Cue 20... at this stage you can decide if you need to Record this as Cue Only (if you have a cue after Cue 20, that you don't want to be affected) or not. You can also decide if you want to Block this cue. My suggestion would be that, as you are clearly creating a very different look on stage, that you would want to Block this. This essentially creates a wall, giving all channels a Hard level, so that no matter what you adjust 'upstream' of this point, they will go to this point. 

There is the option to do an Intensity Block, which if you are using any multi-parameter fixtures, can be useful.

Does this help?

 

Warren.

 

Hi Kevin,

EOS always allows values from previous cues to track into new cues. This makes sense when recording cues sequentially from start of show to finish. When one creates an entirely different look and records it into an existing cue list the result may not be what one expected. Cue-Only mode does not change this behavior. Cue-Only mode affects editing and updating.

When recording a new cue out of sequence and you want to prevent previous values tracking in, try the syntax;
Record (or Record Only) Cue # REM-DIM Enter

Peter

Looking at the original scenario, when you record, the console should capture the entire state, so any channels not active in live should not track in from cue 10.  This would be the case whether you record cue only or tracking, as those modes affect tracks moving forwards.

I think the issue is a confusion between [cue only] and [record only].  An expanded description might be:

Cue Only = Change this cue only, and not subsequent cues

Record Only = Record only the channels that are manual

So if you GoTo 0, write a cue, and Record Only into the middle of a sequence, you are telling EOS to Record only the channels with manual intensities into the new cue and ignore everything else.  Because in the "0 state" channels have no level as opposed to a hard zero level, you are just ignoring those channels, and the console will track them in.

What I think you want is to a regular record of cue 20, cue only.  If the console is in cue only mode, just [record].  If it is in tracking, press the [Cue Only/Track] toggle button before terminating the command line.  You may also want to block cue 20, just to make sure future modifications will never track into that cue.

HTH,

Josh

Couple of thoughts to bring some clarity to this (perhaps).

A Record Only (store only manual values) is treated by the desk as any other selective store operation.  Selective stores always allow data (not modified by current manual levels as determined by the type of selective store) to track in from the previous cue.  This is unless it is appended with the Rem Dim command, which as Peter points out, will drive intensities that would otherwise track into the new cue to zero.  On a full state record with all manual values, Eos puts zeros where they are needed to duplicate the current stage state.

A couple of scenarios:

Cue 1 = 1 thru 10 at full

Tracks to cue 10.

1 at 50.

Record Only Cue 2.5 Cue Only Rem Dim.

Cue 2.5 = 1 at 50, 2-10 out.

Because you appended the command with Cue Only, cue 3 will restore 1-10 to full.

Go to Cue Out.

2 at 50.

Record Cue 3.5 Cue Only.

Cue 3.5 = 2 at 50, 1 + 3-10 out.

Because you appended with the Cue Only instruction, cue 4 will restore 1-10 to full.

Hope that helps!

a

 

 

 

One way you can fix this by starting with typing [go to cue] [out]. This way none of the properties will track through with your cues. You can then set your levels accordingly for your cue 20 and then hit [record] [cue] [20]