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Hello all.

I'm having issues with adding a cue between two other cues. Say I record cue 10 as cue only. Then I go to cue out to work on another section of the show. I then record that cue only as cue 20. Upon playback I'm getting cue 10's values in with cue 20. What am I doing wrong?

-Kevin

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  • Hi Kevin,

    EOS always allows values from previous cues to track into new cues. This makes sense when recording cues sequentially from start of show to finish. When one creates an entirely different look and records it into an existing cue list the result may not be what one expected. Cue-Only mode does not change this behavior. Cue-Only mode affects editing and updating.

    When recording a new cue out of sequence and you want to prevent previous values tracking in, try the syntax;
    Record (or Record Only) Cue # REM-DIM Enter

    Peter

  • Looking at the original scenario, when you record, the console should capture the entire state, so any channels not active in live should not track in from cue 10.  This would be the case whether you record cue only or tracking, as those modes affect tracks moving forwards.

    I think the issue is a confusion between [cue only] and [record only].  An expanded description might be:

    Cue Only = Change this cue only, and not subsequent cues

    Record Only = Record only the channels that are manual

    So if you GoTo 0, write a cue, and Record Only into the middle of a sequence, you are telling EOS to Record only the channels with manual intensities into the new cue and ignore everything else.  Because in the "0 state" channels have no level as opposed to a hard zero level, you are just ignoring those channels, and the console will track them in.

    What I think you want is to a regular record of cue 20, cue only.  If the console is in cue only mode, just [record].  If it is in tracking, press the [Cue Only/Track] toggle button before terminating the command line.  You may also want to block cue 20, just to make sure future modifications will never track into that cue.

    HTH,

    Josh

  • Couple of thoughts to bring some clarity to this (perhaps).

    A Record Only (store only manual values) is treated by the desk as any other selective store operation.  Selective stores always allow data (not modified by current manual levels as determined by the type of selective store) to track in from the previous cue.  This is unless it is appended with the Rem Dim command, which as Peter points out, will drive intensities that would otherwise track into the new cue to zero.  On a full state record with all manual values, Eos puts zeros where they are needed to duplicate the current stage state.

    A couple of scenarios:

    Cue 1 = 1 thru 10 at full

    Tracks to cue 10.

    1 at 50.

    Record Only Cue 2.5 Cue Only Rem Dim.

    Cue 2.5 = 1 at 50, 2-10 out.

    Because you appended the command with Cue Only, cue 3 will restore 1-10 to full.

    Go to Cue Out.

    2 at 50.

    Record Cue 3.5 Cue Only.

    Cue 3.5 = 2 at 50, 1 + 3-10 out.

    Because you appended with the Cue Only instruction, cue 4 will restore 1-10 to full.

    Hope that helps!

    a

     

     

     



    [edited by: Anne Valentino at 2:22 PM (GMT -6) on Fri, Feb 10 2012]
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  • Couple of thoughts to bring some clarity to this (perhaps).

    A Record Only (store only manual values) is treated by the desk as any other selective store operation.  Selective stores always allow data (not modified by current manual levels as determined by the type of selective store) to track in from the previous cue.  This is unless it is appended with the Rem Dim command, which as Peter points out, will drive intensities that would otherwise track into the new cue to zero.  On a full state record with all manual values, Eos puts zeros where they are needed to duplicate the current stage state.

    A couple of scenarios:

    Cue 1 = 1 thru 10 at full

    Tracks to cue 10.

    1 at 50.

    Record Only Cue 2.5 Cue Only Rem Dim.

    Cue 2.5 = 1 at 50, 2-10 out.

    Because you appended the command with Cue Only, cue 3 will restore 1-10 to full.

    Go to Cue Out.

    2 at 50.

    Record Cue 3.5 Cue Only.

    Cue 3.5 = 2 at 50, 1 + 3-10 out.

    Because you appended with the Cue Only instruction, cue 4 will restore 1-10 to full.

    Hope that helps!

    a

     

     

     



    [edited by: Anne Valentino at 2:22 PM (GMT -6) on Fri, Feb 10 2012]
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