fan delay by group...

As a non-answer answer, have you looked at pixel mapping?  

yes... and that's certainly one way to do it, but i've hit the consoles software limit on how many servers i can patch.

One would think that applying a fan across a group would work but alas it does not.  Seems like a reasonable feature request.   [Group] 1 through 4 [Fan] [Delay] 1 through 10 would fan across groups of channels not individual channels.  Though I can see where an issue would arise in cases where the same channel was in 2 different groups...

Peace,

Ed

Yeah, I would Fan groups.  For a vertical fade you would have 4 groups (each row being a group) and for a horizontal fade you would have 7 groups (one for each column).  When you Fan a selection of groups it treats each group as an item instead of each channel in the group.  Using [Fan] {Reverse} you can get top to bottom/bottom to top and left to right/right to left.  And with {Mirror} even a center-out effect.

-Tim

Ed- you're right, that would be sweet, perhaps some sort of toggle state for fan by channel vs fan by group? 

Among other things, I've always wanted to see a someone do referable groups too...
Right now, a group is basically a quick way of selecting multiple channels, but once those channels are recorded into a cue, the reference to the group goes away.

I  want a function that remembers the whole group-
so if group 1 is channels 1-5, and i record cue 1, channels 1-5 show up in cue 1

but if i have a referable group, and i add channels 6-10 to group 1, then channels 6-10 show up in cue 1 too

and more so... if group 1/channels 1-5 have a delay/fan of 0-5, and i add in channels 6-10 in group 1, then all of a sudden the delay/fans 0-5 across channel 1-10.

or if the selection order of group 1 is 1,2,3,4,5

and i change the selection order to

2,5,3,1,4

the fan redistributes to the new selection order.

Being able to affect groups of channels with fan is On The List, but until then, as a work around, you can use a couple of macros, groups with dummy channels and [Fan] {Cluster}. 

So using your graphic above, with channels 1-4 in the top row, 5-11 in the next row, etc I've added some dummy channels (in parentheses) so they line up properly:

Make group X in the exact order from top left to bottom right going across horizontally [101,1,2,102,3,4,103,5 thru 18,104,19,20,105,21,22,106]

Learn the following macro:

[Group] X {Color} [Fan] {Cluster} 7 [Delay]

Then hit your macro and type in your range of delay (e.g. 0 thru 3) and your top line (1-4) will delay 0 sec, your second line (5-11) will delay 1 sec, etc.

Make group Y from top left to bottom right going down vertically [101,5,12,104,1,6,13,19,etc]

Learn another macro:

[Group] X {Color} [Fan] {Cluster} 4 [Delay]

Then hit your macro and type in your range of delay (e.g. 0 thru 6) and the rightmost line (5,12) will delay 0 sec, the next line (1,6,13,19) will delay 1 sec, etc.

The only caveat is that you will need to make sure those dummy channels (101-106) have values; you can easily go into blind and grab all of your cues and give their color a hard level of 0.

I know that's a little kludgy, but the few minutes of set up will save you hours of programming time.

Hope that helps. 

-M

Mark, that's a great thought!  thank you.

Could you please explain what you are trying to accomplish again?  From your original post, I am not sure what the problem is.

-Tim

What you are looking to do will be achieved easily when we implement a "sub-grouping" feature - where subsets of channels within a group are treated as a single unit.  This will be done sometime this year.

Thanks,

a

That sounds awesome, but Mark's solution is pretty trick too.