Submaster mixing (LEDs)

Hello Ynot

Are you just recording single parameters into the subs? So set the Red to full and then say [Channel Numbers] {Red} [Record] [Sub] [X] [Enter]. Then just do the same for the other  parameters.

Hope this answers your question?

Nick

Hey, Trying to do pretty much the same thing today on an Ion XE20 and coming up with similar results.
I'm not really sure why.

RGB colour mixing on submaster faders.
I recorded the subs in Live using pre-recorded colour palettes.
Now, when the Red sub is run up while the Blue is at full, I just get a colour palette snap to red. No mixing.

I'm not experienced on the Eos family, we just upgraded from an Express, so hold my hand here...
I assume it has to do with my use of the colour palettes, but the original command line you suggested confuses as idk what {red} means.
Is that a Key? Do I colour pick again? Is that a CP?

Thanks anyone!

it's the same notation ETC uses in the manual (and the education workbooks) : [hard key], {soft key}. so {Red} would be something you find on screen. more precisely you can find it in the CIA on the left side. there are what's called the parameter tiles.
the reason why you have to to this is that you need to tell the console that you only want to record the red parameter to the fader.

THANK YOU!

Bottom Left of the CIA helps... I was looking for soft keys up top, not buttons on the left.

you should delete your current red/green/blue subs and start fresh, it's easier that way, believe me ;)

Delete Sub x Thru y Enter

Whilst it will as probably be easier as ueliriegg says to start again, I'll give the instructions as to how to see how the sub is setup (which will probably make it obvious why it was wrong) and how to edit it.

On the Subs tab, select the sub you want. (make sure you only have one selected) and press the edit softkey.

You will get a tombstone or table or spreadsheet display, if its not the normal table display press format until it is.

To make it so you only see the channels in the sub press flexi and then active.

Now you should see the channels and the red, green, blue values.

You can now edit them, select each channel

You will want to remove the green and blue values from the Red sub, so click on green and blue and then do @ enter.

(@ and enter will no value clears a value in EOS)

That should do it, repeat for the other colour subs. (I think I've not missed out a key stroke but if so should still be fairly obvious)

Whilst it will as probably be easier as ueliriegg says to start again, I'll give the instructions as to how to see how the sub is setup (which will probably make it obvious why it was wrong) and how to edit it.

On the Subs tab, select the sub you want. (make sure you only have one selected) and press the edit softkey.

You will get a tombstone or table or spreadsheet display, if its not the normal table display press format until it is.

To make it so you only see the channels in the sub press flexi and then active.

Now you should see the channels and the red, green, blue values.

You can now edit them, select each channel

You will want to remove the green and blue values from the Red sub, so click on green and blue and then do @ enter.

(@ and enter will no value clears a value in EOS)

That should do it, repeat for the other colour subs. (I think I've not missed out a key stroke but if so should still be fairly obvious)

Thanks.
I'm so used to the Express treating 0 as -null-, I didn't register the Ion treating 0 as an Absolute value..... which in retrospect, makes total sense.

Everything just takes a few extra steps with the Ion. I can't just record a stage look into a sub, I have to record the Intensity of these specific channels & then the colour(s) + Intensities of these channels....
....Learning curve.

Not sure what you mean when you say "you cant just record the look into the sub". You don't need to do bits separately.

Record Sub 1 should record all current values to Sub 1

In fact the problem you originally had with wanting the subs to separately record red,green,blue was because they were storing all the values and you only wanted the red value in the red sub.

you can "just" record what you see, but whit non-Intensity-Parameters (like Color/Focus) you record much more, or more then you want.

record is very straight forward, if you understand the rules. Record will record all parameters of every fixture that has at least one of its parameters not in the home position anymore, with the exception of stuff that comes from a sub set to Exclude Rec and park.

Hey Mike I'm having a similar problem with subs not colour mixing with the LEDs assigned. I deleted and started again and added all Subs with just the individual colour and full intensity. Now it seems only my green sub cancels out the mixing & takes precident. While the other 2 red and blue will mix. I've looked at both subs in blind to see where the problem lies but can't see any difference. But when I bring up the green sub I see the red and blue intensity are in yellow at 0 while the subs that will mix when selected leave the other colours attributes at 0 but greyed out. Of there is a way to post pics here I will gladly. Ion xe running latest fixture library. Any help appreciated.

Blind, Sub 2 Enter (where sub 2 is your green sub).
press format until you see table format. you should be seeing Red 0, Green 100, Blue 0. remove red and blue by typing Chan 1 Red Blue At Enter.

ps: to add pictures to a post click "use rich formatting" at bottom right of reply window, then you'll get a menu bar, where you can click Insert and then Images.

Pictures always make things easier.

As you can see in this screenshot of Blind, Sub 30 has the Red, Green, & White LED values recorded as 0. This will take precedence and those values will go to 0.

To negate this error, select the channels, then the colours from the virtual keys in the bottom left. Here, the aforementioned Red, Green, & White values. and make those values null by setting them to @ [Enter].

(Those virtual keys confused the hell out of me for the first few weeks, so don't fret about it.)

so, for me: Group 160 Red Green White @ [Enter]

 

Thanks a million all working fine and now understand the whole @enter scenarios. Cheers

Thanks Wuz