trying to write fixture profile

The ID is irrelevant in terms of function. For user created stuff, normally mfg 99 is used, and then whatever the next available number is for type.

On the pan/tilt, do you mean you get two pan and two tilt channels on the encoders, or two channels for pan and two for tilt in DMX? If the latter, that is the definition of ltp16bit - a single DMX channel is 8 bit, and to get 16 bit uses two, in order (and that is where some of the el-cheapo Chinese stuff is "epic fail" - the use reverse order, which the Hog can't do, but that is unlikely since most of this DJ junk never heard of 16 bit . . .). If you don't need 16 bit, then the ltp8bit definition will be correct, but you need to be sure that the start channel is correct.

If you can post the channel map for this fixture, as well as what you created, we can review and be of more help. Otherwise, the Hog-2 manual has an excellent section on creating fixture definitions (far better than that in the Hog-1000) and the two are identical in that regard.

- Tim

Thanks, Tim. I managed to get this one functioning correctly! I fixed the pan and tilt mistake, and I chose a what I thought was a random product code # (19) and it worked.
However, Now I have 2 other elation fixtures which which I need 2 new product codes for. When I just pick a number and load it in the hog 1000 gives me an error that says "function duplicated in library file:_lib.lib Can't find fixture type. Then it says "this file is incompatable with this version of the software--load aborted". I believe I have the Manufacturer code correct as I looked at other elation files. Is there a way to find out what product codes are available?

Thanks
Toby

Again, for stuff you write yourself, the Mfg. ID is normally set to 99 (User), and then the fixture types start at 1. It still makes no difference, just so they don't duplicate!

The "function duplicated" error is typically something else that has been redefined in what you have created, and which already exists in the file "function.txt". The duplicate number is as you state, and is why you don't typically write new user defined fixture types on other than mfg. 99!

Having said that, the highest defined fixture type I can find for Elation is 33 . . . And 19 is already assigned to a fixture called the "Proton Star", although that may not be in the default on-board library, hence your lack of conflict.

This is what I have from the Hog-2 library for Elation:

CMY Zoom 250.lib:product = 27
Color Spot 250R.lib:product = 14
colour_250.lib:product = 2
colour_575.lib:product = 1
colourspot250.lib:product = 28
colourspot575.lib:product = 11
colour_spot.lib:product = 15
Design LED.lib:product = 30
Design Spot 250.lib:product = 26
Design Spot 575.lib:product = 31
FS-150SCI.lib:product = 10
Joy 150.lib:product = 9
Joy 300.lib:product = 8
Opti RGB.lib:product = 29
powerspot_575.lib:product = 15
Power Spot 700.lib:product = 32
powerspot.lib:product = 14
powerwash250.lib:product = 17
powerwash575.lib:product = 25
procolor.lib:product = 6
Proton Color.lib:product = 18
Proton Star.lib:product = 19
spot_150R.lib:product = 12
spot_150S.lib:product = 13
spot_250.lib:product = 3
spot_575.lib:product = 0
vision.lib:product = 4
vision scan 250.lib:product = 33
vision scan 575.lib:product = 22
waterfall.lib:product = 5

You won't get new formal assignments, since, once again, it isn't needed, recommended, or supported any more . . . if in doubt, use Mfg. 99 as per the instructions in the manual . . .

Again, if you can post the pertinent data (your _lib.lib entries for this case) it will be far easier to help!

- Tim

Addendum: I just checked another resource, and find Elation types assigned to product 35, which is a "Design Par H" . . .

- Tim

Tim, this is the last one that seems to be giving me trouble: It's for an Elation Power Spot 700 (non-cmy) I was able to get the CMY version off the flying pig website, so I tried to use it as a base to create this one. When I load it in I get two error messages: "Function duplicated in library file: _lib.lib AND "Failed to read in fixture:_lib.lib Can't find fixture type. The Fixture has 2 indexing gobo wheels and a fixed gobo wheel. I copied the Powerspot CMY, removed the cmy parameters, and tried to create a parameter for the fixed gobo wheel. All the other parameters seemed to match up.

//-------------------------------------------------------
fixture = pow700st
manufacturer = 99
product = 36
name = PowerSpot 700

output = dmx

parameter = Pan
default = 32768
highlight = 0
crossfade = 0
type = ltp16bit
deflection = 530
range = 0, 65535, %

parameter = Tilt
default = 32768
highlight = 0
crossfade = 0
type = ltp16bit
deflection = 285
offset = 0
range = 0, 65535, %

parameter = Colour
default = 0
highlight = 0
crossfade = 1
type = ltp8bit
range = 255, audio2, noauto
range = 254, audio1, noauto
range = 192, 253, <
range = 130, 191, >>, noauto
range = 0, open
range = 2, open+, noauto
range = 4, color1
range = 6, color1+, noauto
range = 8, color2
range = 10, color2+, noauto
range = 12, color3
range = 14, color3+, noauto
range = 16, color4
range = 18, color4+, noauto
range = 20, color5
range = 22, color5+, noauto
range = 24, color6
range = 26, color6+, noauto
range = 28, color7
range = 30, color7+, noauto
range = 32, color8
range = 34, color8+, noauto
range = 36, open, noauto
range = 64, open*, noauto
range = 66, open*+, noauto
range = 68, color1*, noauto
range = 70, color1*+, noauto
range = 72, color2*, noauto
range = 74, color2*+, noauto
range = 76, color3*, noauto
range = 78, color3*+, noauto
range = 80, color4*, noauto
range = 82, color4*+, noauto
range = 84, color5*, noauto
range = 86, color5*+, noauto
range = 88, color6*, noauto
range = 90, color6*+, noauto
range = 92, color7*, noauto
range = 94, color7*+, noauto
range = 96, color8*, noauto
range = 98, color8*+, noauto
range = 100, open*, noauto

parameter = Colour2
default = 0
highlight = 0
crossfade = 1
type = ltp8bit
range = 255, audio2, noauto
range = 254, audio1, noauto
range = 192, 253, <
range = 130, 191, >>, noauto
range = 0, open
range = 2, open+, noauto
range = 4, color1
range = 6, color1+, noauto
range = 8, color2
range = 10, color2+, noauto
range = 12, color3
range = 14, color3+, noauto
range = 16, color4
range = 18, color4+, noauto
range = 20, color5
range = 22, color5+, noauto
range = 24, color6
range = 26, color6+, noauto
range = 28, color7
range = 30, color7+, noauto
range = 32, color8
range = 34, color8+, noauto
range = 36, open, noauto
range = 64, open*, noauto
range = 66, open*+, noauto
range = 68, color1*, noauto
range = 70, color1*+, noauto
range = 72, color2*, noauto
range = 74, color2*+, noauto
range = 76, color3*, noauto
range = 78, color3*+, noauto
range = 80, color4*, noauto
range = 82, color4*+, noauto
range = 84, color5*, noauto
range = 86, color5*+, noauto
range = 88, color6*, noauto
range = 90, color6*+, noauto
range = 92, color7*, noauto
range = 94, color7*+, noauto
range = 96, color8*, noauto
range = 98, color8*+, noauto
range = 100, open*, noauto

parameter = Gobo
default = 0
highlight = 0
crossfade = 1
type = ltp8bit
range = 255, audio2, noauto
range = 254, audio1, noauto
range = 192, 253, <
range = 130, 191, >>, noauto
range = 0, open, centre
range = 8, gobo 1, centre
range = 16, gobo 2, centre
range = 24, gobo 3, centre
range = 32, gobo 4, centre
range = 40, gobo 5, centre
range = 48, gobo 6, centre
range = 56, gobo 7, centre
range = 64, open*, centre
range = 72, gobo1*, noauto
range = 80, gobo2*, noauto
range = 88, gobo3*, noauto
range = 96, gobo4*, noauto
range = 104, gobo5*, noauto
range = 112, gobo6*, noauto
range = 120, gobo7*, noauto

parameter = Gobo <>
default = 0
highlight = 0
crossfade = 1
type = ltp8bit
range = 255, audio2, noauto
range = 254, audio1, noauto
range = 192, 253, <
range = 130, 191, >>noauto
range = 0, 127, index, noauto

parameter = gobo2
default = 0
highlight = 0
crossfade = 1
type = ltp8bit
range = 255, audio2, noauto
range = 254, audio1, noauto
range = 192, 253, <
range = 130, 191, >>, noauto
range = 0, open, centre
range = 8, gobo 1, centre
range = 16, gobo 2, centre
range = 24, gobo 3, centre
range = 32, gobo 4, centre
range = 40, gobo 5, centre
range = 48, gobo 6, centre
range = 56, gobo 7, centre
range = 64, open*, centre
range = 72, gobo1*, noauto
range = 80, gobo2*, noauto
range = 88, gobo3*, noauto
range = 96, gobo4*, noauto
range = 104, gobo5*, noauto
range = 112, gobo6*, noauto
range = 120, gobo7*, noauto

parameter = Gobo <>
default = 0
highlight = 0
crossfade = 1
type = ltp8bit
range = 255, audio2, noauto
range = 254, audio1, noauto
range = 192, 253, <
range = 130, 191, >>noauto
range = 0, 127, index, noauto

parameter = Gobo3
default = 0
highlight = 0
crossfade = 1
type = ltp8bit
range = 255, audio2, noauto
range = 254, audio1, noauto
range = 192, 253, <
range = 130, 191, >>, noauto
range = 0, open, centre
range = 4, gobo 1, centre
range = 8, gobo 2, centre
range = 12, gobo 3, centre
range = 16, gobo 4, centre
range = 20, gobo 5, centre
range = 24, gobo 6, centre
range = 28, gobo 7, centre
range = 32, gobo 8, centre
range = 36, gobo 9, centre
range = 64, open*, centre
range = 68, gobo1*, noauto
range = 72, gobo2*, noauto
range = 76, gobo3*, noauto
range = 80, gobo4*, noauto
range = 84, gobo5*, noauto
range = 88, gobo6*, noauto
range = 92, gobo7*, noauto
range = 96, gobo8*, noauto
range = 100, gobo9*, noauto

parameter = Strobe
default = 255
highlight = 255
crossfade = 1
type = ltp8bit
range = 48, 63, audio, noauto
range = 32, 47, pulse, noauto
range = 16, 31, random, noauto
range = 0, closed
range = 255, open
range = 64, 239, strobe, noauto

parameter = Intensity
default = 0
highlight = 255
crossfade = 0
type = htp8bit
range = 0, 255, %

parameter = Focus
default = 128
highlight = 128
crossfade = 0
type = ltp8bit
range = 0, 255, %

parameter = Zoom
default = 128
highlight = 128
crossfade = 0
type = ltp8bit
range = 0, 255, %

parameter = Frost
default = 0
highlight = 0
crossfade = 0
type = ltp8bit
range = 0, 255, %

parameter = Prism
default = 0
highlight = 0
crossfade = 1
type = htp8bit
range = 255, audio, noauto
range = 192, 254, >>, noauto
range = 0, open, noauto
range = 6, 129, index, noauto

parameter = Iris
default = 0
highlight = 0
crossfade = 0
type = ltp8bit
range = 240, 253, ramp, noauto
range = 224, 239, pulse, noauto
range = 208, 223, descend3, noauto
range = 192, 207, ascend3, noauto
range = 176, 191, descend2, noauto
range = 160, 175, ascend2, noauto
range = 144, 159, descend1, noauto
range = 128, 143, ascend1, noauto
range = 0, 127, %

parameter = Special
default = 0
highlight = 0
crossfade = 1
type = ltp8bit
range = 0, open
range = 255, reset, noauto
range = 235, lampoff, noauto
range = 224, fan, noauto
range = 16, 63, goboshak, noauto
range = 112, 143, color, noauto
range = 176, 207, p&t, noauto

parameter = Macro
default = 0
highlight = 0
crossfade = 1
type = ltp8bit
range = 68, 127, <
range = 4, 63, >>prism, noauto
range = 0, 31, pan, noauto
range = 32, 63, tilt, noauto
range = 64, 95, p&t1, noauto
range = 96, 127, p&t, noauto
range = 128, 191, circle, noauto
range = 192, 223, fig 8, noauto
range = 255, random, noauto

parameter = Speed
default = 0
highlight = 0
crossfade = 1
type = htp8bit
range = 0, 255, %

Found it! it was the second gobo rot function. Now tomorrow we will see if they actually work correctly with the fixtures.....

Thanks for all your advice!

Glad to hear, since I just now got to look at things, and you have discovered, that you can't duplicate in a profile . . . So, assuming the channel order is correct, you should be good to go.

- Tim