Moving cues

Using a Road Hog I'm unable to move cues. I'm following the syntax on p.207 of the manual: List 1 Cue 1 thru 4 move List 2 Cue 2 Enter

When I do this, nothing happens. No error message, nothing erased by mistake, nothing overwritten, nothing deleted, nothing. period.

When I execute exactly the same syntax changing "move" to "copy" it copies fine. All of the cues show up just as expected. What am I doing wrong?
  • I think that you only can "move" a complete que-list, and you can "copy" a part of a quelist
  • [quote=Hog 3 manual p.207]To move a range of cues:
    List 1 Cue 1 thru 4 Move List 2 Cue 2 Enter: moves Cues 1 to 4 of Cuelist 1 to Cuelist 2, starting at Cue 2
    Is the manual wrong then?
  • Rick,

    Yes the manual is wrong as the moving of multiple cues has not been implemented. I will update the manual.

    thanks,
  • What is the alternative to moving cues? Copy inserts "copy of" in front of every cue. Is there a way to eliminate this when copying? What is the best way to merge cuelists. I have created individual songs as separate cuelists and would like to merge them all together for the show. Is this the wrong approach? Should I keep them separate? If so, when I go from one cuelist to the next, how do I clean up the first and cleanly initiate the second. If the second list was released in a state other than cue 1, it picks up where it left off. How do I stop that behavior without merging? Being new to Hog, I'm learning things the Hog way but trying to incorporate my traditional theater background. Thanks for your help.
  • Hi Rick,

    You can change the text that is copied for objects in the Default Naming tab of the Preferences window. I too do not like the "Copy of" text and always change my defaults to eliminate this. Refer to section 13.4.1 of the User Manual/Help for full details.

    To eliminate the Copy Of text, change the copy label to just "&O". By the way in version 3.0 this will be one of the options in the drop down list of the Default Naming options.

    In terms of a show layout with different cuelists per song, with most concert situation each song is on its own page. In a more theatrical environment, I would just copy the cues to a single cuelist to have one big list. However be sure to make the first cue in the list a blocking cue (have data recorded for all parameters of all fixtures) so that no data tracks from song to song. You can read more about blocking in section 19.7.4 of the User Manual/Help.

    Have fun,
  • Thanks Brad. If I do that, what's the difference between copy and move? It seems that move is just a copy followed by a delete. Is there any other difference?

    When I copy multiple from one list to another, it only shows the first cue copied and I cannot access the others. Closing and opening the list makes all the copied cues visible and accessible.
  • Rick,

    You are correct that move should work as it is the same as copying and deleting. We will look further into why move has never worked with multiple cues.

    Regarding the problem with copying (or deleting) cues and not seeing them in the cuelist is a known bug. The fix is part of a larger views rework that we hope to get to soon. By the way you can just press the CHOOSE key for that list and it will refresh the screen. You do not have to close it first.