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Updating a Sensor Pack (Original?) that has 6 50a outlets to one that has 12 stagepin outlets

Hi Guys,

 

Would it be possible to "update" the outlets on the back of my older Sensor Dimmer? What I mean is, would it be possible to change out the outlet panel on the back of the pack?

Also, would it be possible to get the Sensor 3 retrofit kit to work on these really old racks?

 

I believe it's the generation where the control card is the classic, but not sure...

 

The top panel looks exactly like this one from 4Wall*:

http://www.usedlighting.com/122/etc-12-x-2-4k-sensor-pack

 

*Except for the fact that pack has the 20A dimmer modules.....and 20A stagepin outlets

 

Thanks guys!

  • It is possible to update the Pack to Sensor3.  If you want to also change the backpanel, I would suggest that between parts and labor you may be approaching the cost of a new pack. We are happy to discuss this further with you and also your local dealer can quote you both options so you can make a decision based on the cost differential.

    Jake Dunnum

    Dimming Product Manager

    Electronic Theatre Controls, Inc.

  • in reply to jdunnum

    I'm assuming it's a little more complex then unscrewing the back panel, loosening the terminals to the outlets, and rewiring the outlets to the terminals?

    Are the insides of a 50A rack not the same to a 20A stagepin rack?

    As a compromise, would it be possible to just dimmer double the circuits to get 12 outlets?  

  • in reply to lightingguy1

    You cannot dimmer double with a 50a dimmer as all the wiring and devices are 20a rated, thus you have no code compliant over-current protection.  

    As well the interior slot for a 50a dimmer is different from a 20a and 100a, to prevent a 50a dimmer to be used in a slot that has wiring designed for a 20a circuit.  There are tabs on the interior of where the module installs that get configured for the assorted dimmer sizes.  That all would need to be changed.  

    Steve B.

  • So really all you'd be saving is the outer shell and the Cam-Lok input panel.  New dimmer modules, new CEM3, new backplane, new output panel.  I suspect to purchase all those parts and the labor to change them would cost MORE than to buy a new SP3-1220BV, and you'd gain 2P&G AND multi-pin outs.

  • in reply to derekleffew

    Well...

    Here is my ordeal......

     

    This church has this older rack(I don't actually own it yet), and they are buying new Sensor 3 packs, and are selling their original sensor packs. 

     

    This 50A dimmer module pack is basically their Red Headed step child, and they are trying to get rid of it. 

     

    It doesn't come with a CEM or MPE, as they already sold them in a separate parts sale.

     

    Should I go for it, or not? They have an awesome deal of $300



    [edited by: lightingguy1 at 1:14 PM (GMT -6) on Sun, Nov 13 2011]
  • in reply to lightingguy1

    lightingguy1 said:
    They have an awesome deal of $300

    $300 would be an awesome deal (!)... IF the pack was fully functional, but even then you'd need to spend 6x$376.45 MSRP to (legally) use it with 20A wiring.  To make it into what you want it to be, I'm fairly certain will cost >$3000. 

    So $300 for a doorstop/boat anchor (which might be 19 years old).  Do you know how much they sold the MPE for?

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    [edited by: derekleffew at 4:49 PM (GMT -6) on Sun, Nov 13 2011]
  • in reply to derekleffew

    Derek,

     

    The pack was manufactured in 2000, I believe.

     

    I think the pack of extra/in service Dimmer and Control modules was sold for $700?

     

    They were going to upgrade the MPE with a CEM, but it never happened as the head TD quit at the time.

     

     



    [edited by: lightingguy1 at 7:43 PM (GMT -6) on Sun, Nov 13 2011]
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