Show Tonight - Board Possessed by Devil

I have an ION board with the newest software update and in the process of recording new cues, I am having some strange behavior I cannot seem to eradicate.

I have cue 1 as a "blackout" cue but when going to it, another fixture assigned to a submaster comes on.

Additionally, after a certain point in my cue list (say 30) all subsequent cues have changed to reflect cues much further down my list.  Cue 400, for example is a single spot, cue 445.1 is a series of strobes & prism effects but now going from 30 to 55 it picks up the effects from 445.1!

I have absolutely slaughtered the lingo and for that I apologize.  I am a theatre arts teacher with a show tonight, I taught myself the lighting and had a wonderful instructor from Bradfield lighting come in a few weeks back but I am utterly lost.

Please help!

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  • My guess is that you probably had the submaster active when you recorded the cue.  Either delete Q1 and write a new one or simply remove the offending channel from the Q.   As for the effect showing up in Q 55, you probably had the effect running in the background when you wrote the cue . or you may have accidently  recorded over Q 55 when you were recording the 400 series Q.  You can either remove the external link or delete Q 55 and write it again.

    Hope this helps a bit

    Dan

  • I have the board in tracking mode if that helps...but the issue is that even after I delete the channel from Q1 and re-record (using both REC and REC ONLY) and then go back to Q 1 it still pulls up that submaster value.

    I have re-recorded the motion light cues only to have their parameters show up in subsequent cues.

    I am going to try and set the board in cue only mode to see if that resolves the problem.

    As for having the effects running in the background, I always go to my blackout cue and build a new cue from "nothing" on.  But it's almost as if the board is copying information from one cue to the new cues.  For example cue 30 is "the Mob" and it's only my source 4s...cue 55 is "Mob extras" with just motion lights...cue 60 is "Maison" with  a single motion light as back light and some front lights on our catwalk.  Going from 30 to 55 to 60 I get a blend of 55 & 60 even after resetting everything recording them all again!

    And then I go to cue 1 after removing the offending channel and it STILL pops on!

    Grr...

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  • I have the board in tracking mode if that helps...but the issue is that even after I delete the channel from Q1 and re-record (using both REC and REC ONLY) and then go back to Q 1 it still pulls up that submaster value.

    I have re-recorded the motion light cues only to have their parameters show up in subsequent cues.

    I am going to try and set the board in cue only mode to see if that resolves the problem.

    As for having the effects running in the background, I always go to my blackout cue and build a new cue from "nothing" on.  But it's almost as if the board is copying information from one cue to the new cues.  For example cue 30 is "the Mob" and it's only my source 4s...cue 55 is "Mob extras" with just motion lights...cue 60 is "Maison" with  a single motion light as back light and some front lights on our catwalk.  Going from 30 to 55 to 60 I get a blend of 55 & 60 even after resetting everything recording them all again!

    And then I go to cue 1 after removing the offending channel and it STILL pops on!

    Grr...

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  • Remember Q Only mode is an editing only function, it does not affect playback of cues only what happens when you press record. The desk is always a tracking/move fade desk when playing back cues.

    Your last comment on getting a blend suggests that what you are seeing is one cue tracking into another and this is how the desk works. You really would be best recording each cue from the previous one. What you are doing by recording each cue from a 'blank' state is only storing the moves in that cue into a later one, this means the lights that were on in an earlier cue don't get a move instruction in that cue and will thus stay on.

    Think of each cue storing changes rather than a whole look, so if cue 30 has your source 4s in it, and the next cue is Cue 55, you need to tell those lights to go out in cue 55 otherwise they will stay on.

    Hope that's a bit of a help!

    Dan

  • I am currently having issues with re-recording and the programmers are looking in to it.  If you re-record something I am seeing old data still holding.  May not be the same thing, but worth noting.  



    [edited by: bkeith2 at 3:51 PM (GMT -6) on Fri, Apr 19 2013]
  • In cue 1 are you recalling a snap shot?  If so was the snap shot recorded with faders?

  • you might also have the submaster on without it being assigned to a fader. Hit Sub twice and see if any of them in the list are at 100%.  If so, type [Sub] ## [Out] [Enter]  and it should take care of the issue.  For the effects bleeding over, make sure your other cues don't have any external links.  If they do, go into the offending cue, select the fixtures running effects and hit <StopEffect> or [Channel] ## [Effect] [Enter] and re-record the cue.  You may wish to make cue 445 a block cue first so that the tracking starts over there.

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