Need Fixture profile

Hello, John-Mark:

I fear that due to the holidays this profile may not be done in the time you would like. 

I would love to help you make the profile work for you now if possible.

Can you tell me what isn't working right about the profile?

Also, did you assign each parameter twice, or did you change each to 16bit in the fixture editor?

Thank you,

Sasha Aranow

I think i may have figured out the problem. "LDMX" was set to really weird channels. I  didn't know what those were because they were set automatically when I made them 16bit.

I fixed the LDMX and am now having someone test them at the venue.

For the lamp controls:

I just need to make a fixture global retest for now.

I don't know how to determine the number of steps required though.

the manual says this:

CH 10 at   200-219  for 3 sec = reset

How to I do that and how may steps would that take?

If you select the "steps" softkey you will see that you can tell it the number of seconds.   That wait is 1 step.

This would probably take two steps: the 3 sec one you mentioned and then a Hold-step where you take this Channel to a no-function- range, so it doesn't reset eternally...

that did work

I just put in two steps. One for the reset and then one for a no function value.

I didn't put a hold time in the no value step. Would that hurt it?

The LDMX and 16 bit setting didn't fix the problems at the venue. the fixtures are still flickering randomly.

I call the manufacture and they are testing some.

I doubt it is a cabling issue because there are other fixtures on the same run and they are functioning fine. Plus the flicker happens at the same time on all 5 fixtures. Weird.

I'll just have to wait for a "pro made ETC profile" to see if it was something I did or if it's a fixture issue.

thanks for the help everyone. The Lamp controls step system isn't as hard as it looks. It worked great.

Two things to make sure it's the Fixture profile and not the cabling: if you're outputting through a node, switch off RDM on that output. And you can try connecting a single fixture directly to your console (depending if there are any on your console model) 

I'm using the DMX output for the entire system right now. (since there are only 40 fixtures total) this client has an Element console

I've never used RDM since my console (ION) doesn't have that.

I doubt the RDM is enabled. I didn't enable it on this system and if i remember correctly it doesn't work through the DMX ports on the Element console.

Cabling wise I've never had issues with DMX so I'm shooting in the dark as far as trouble shooting it. All the 35 other fixtures and house dimmers are behaving correctly in all parameters.

I'm by no means a pro. so all the node and RDM stuff i'm unfamiliar with. (though it looks cool)

I only learned about ETC when a ION console landed in my lap in June and I had to learn to program 26 moving fixtures an 20 LED fixtures for a different show each week. (I'll say that is a brutal learning curve coming from a lighting controller that has 24 dimmers)

thanks for the help

You're perfectly right, with an element's local DMX ports, you don't have to worry about rdm at the moment.

Maybe you want to post the showfile with your current version of the profile here ( it's under the Options tab when you reply) so someone can have a look?

@ueliriegg good idea.

For those interested, the show file is attached:

the fixtures are on channels 35>39  (Group 40)

The current profile is the newest one that I've made.

The manual for this fixture is linked to on the first post of this thread.

The fixtures randomly flicker. They all do it at the same time. (5 of them)

stupid question, and sorry for asking this: are you sure, that the fixtures have been set to mode 5 and to the correct address...

No problem,

Yes they are all person 5 and I tested them to make sure they were on the correct addresses. I actually used the console to create the plot so that I knew where they would fit in the patch.

Another question. When you say flicker, as in random flashes while you are controlling them, or like a strobe channel that has been inadvertently activated? Is it just one color that flashes, or all colors? Is the Pan/Tilt smooth like you would expect, or are you finding it jumpy? Do all of the units flash at the same time, or each does its own thing.

How are these fixtures wired in with everything else. You mention 40 units all together. Are they all on one DMX chain, or do you have some Opto's in line somewhere. Is is possible to put these Chauvet units on their own chain off of an Opto. Or for troubleshooting purposes, can you temporarily plug them straight to the console and see if you still have the same behavior with nothing else on the DMX chain?

@Travisres

The flicker could be described at a blink of an eye. real quick and only once. They all do it at the same time and not at any set interval. the interval is about every 2-3min.

Any color will do this. if the master intensity for that fixture is greater than 0%   EX; if the fixture was red, it would just blink  once.

The units are functioning normal. all movements are smooth and the zoom shutter are fine.

The wires are as follows:

Console > dimmer rack > LED Par > Q-Spot 560 > 3x 419z > Q-Spot 560 > optical splitter > 2x 419z

(no more than 12 fixtures per each line of the Optical splitter)

All other moving fixtures in all dmx address are behaving fine and are not twitching or acting abnormally.

I'm several hours from the venue and would have to get scaffolding put up to get them down for any direct testing. (I'm having a tech at Chauvet test these fixtures on a similar ETC console at the manufacture. just waiting on results) If chauvet doesn't turn anything up I may have to do something to the wiring. Just trying to pin done the weak link.

Hi John Mark,

Good that Chauvet is looking at it. 

Just confirming... the 3 units before the opto and the 2 units after the opto, all of them still flash at the same time? That is very odd. Then next time you are at the theatre, can you try unpatching a couple of them in the console and then report back if the unpatched lights still blink with the rest. This may help to tell if it really is a profile thing in the console or something else.

Also, just looking at your profile. While I assume that this isn't connected to the problem, I noticed when mucking with the color picker that it won't let you pick anything in the blues area. Looking at the profile, your hue parameter has the user max set at 100 and the label as %. The console default is user max 360 and the label as degrees. While I would assume that if there is only one range and you set user max at 100, it would change the behavior of that channel to work at a 0-100 scale, it appears that is not the case. Just because Hue-Sat land in Eos confuses the crap out of me, I would delete both Hue and Sat and let the console add them back in automatically with default values. 

I'll have the tech there unpatch some and see if they still blink in sync

To answer you question: Yes the ones before the optical and after it blink at the same time

The Hue and Sat channels were add by the console not me. :-\  so Not sure why they are like that. I'll take a look at them.