Why do CueLists need a Fader?

This is another of my never-ending frustrations.

I have multiple CueLists controlling everything from Lobby Lights to House Lights to Focus order.... Each of these I control via a Macro or the RFR, NEVER via a Fader.

but every time I invoke one of these CueLists, EOS assigns it to a Fader.... Which I then have to unassign to keep my Fader Pages rolling fine. I actually built into my Houselight Macros to delete Fader 5/1 after each execution.

Why is this a desired function and is there a way to disable it?

  • Even worse, when you clear a fader it releases the cue list.

  • Why don't you just assign them to a high numbered fader page thats out of the way of all your normal stuff and then you can leave them permanently assigned rather than having to delete them all the time.

  • I too am curious about the logic especially with the way I program is very hog / MA oriented depending on the needs of the show, so I program shows very concert like. Of course, I don't think I am ever expecting to have similar fluid control in Eos as I do in those consoles on the hardware (fader) side. 

    However, the auto cue list creation doesn't make sense to me and it doesn't seem to do me any good other than create clutter where I don't actually need it. I guess it makes sense for very simple theatrical settings to have other cue lists just load to the faders but, I'm not a fan of it in the slightest.

  • Because my Fader Pages are on a toggle.

    Faders 1-20 are displayed.... Pressing [Fader Page] toggles to 21-40... Pressing [Fader Page] again toggles to 1-20 again. I don't want to have to press a button 50 times to switch pages or have to futz with with Hold+select page or have to make Macros to do the function of one button.

    As long as I keep deleting the Faders that pop up, I never toggle to fader page 5.

  • I agree with this being annoy and wish [go to cue] didn't create a fader assignment. I'm pretty sure this was left over from 1.0 workflows and definitely needs an update.

    That being said, a current workaround could be using subs instead of cue lists for the more simple macros and leaving your more complicated stuff like focusing lights the way you have it.

    Houselights, for example: sub x sneak full enter OR sub x sneak (wait for input) enter

  • Except my Houselights are in 10-Part Cues & there is no Discrete Timing on submasters.

  • Was just setting up an example, hence the "more complicated" section in my reply. So far, the best workaround is what you have for cue lists. But again, agree with you...

  • Why not use a macro to swap fader pages instead?  You can direct to any specific page.