Update Group behavior

Thank you for reaching out.

This was indeed a change to make the Update (and RecordOnly) behavior for groups more consistent with the behavior when recording other targets. This change was released with 3.2.0

Ok, thats a pitty. When updating groups a lot, it is a hassle to always make manual before updating. But still it doesn't feel really consistent if the syntax will still work when there are no manual values in live. In that case it should probably do nothing, the same as [Chan 1 Update Cue Enter] would do nothing if there are no manual values.
I also think this has not been communicated clearly. The release notes for 3.2.0 only state: "EOS-50988 [Chans RecordOnly Group] should only store manual channels" and the manual still says to: "[1] [Thru] [5] [Update] [Group] [n] [Enter] - adds channel 1-5 to existing Group n."

Thank you for pointing out that the manual hasn't been updated properly. I will forward this note to the tech writer team.

Thank you for pointing out that the manual hasn't been updated properly. I will forward this note to the tech writer team.

Thanks, it still feels like a big change if you have been using this workflow in, for example, updating a group with non-dims for movers really fast in between programming for years and suddenly this doesn't work any more. As Mathilda also mentions, this could result in errors that affect a show.
And what about my other point I raised about the syntax still working with no manual values at all in live? I got a lot of colleague programmers saying: "I can update groups offline on another desk, but not on the desk on stage". This led me to investigate to find that the syntax works with no manual values in Live. To be really consistent this should also not work.