Concurrent Macros?

Is it possible to referenz them internaly?
So that one Macro is triggering an other?

What are your Macros doing and what are you like to achieve?

Not possible to reference internally. 

One macro says things like "1 at full delay 3 enter" while the other says something like "1 at 0 delay 5 enter". I cannot get both those macros to execute simultaneously so that I fire both at the same time such that channel 1 goes to full at 3 seconds and goes out at 5 seconds. There's a very good reason why I need to do this that I can't adequately get into here.

I think it's not actually a macro limitation but a "delay" command limitation. Can't send multiple delay commands to same fixture. The old one will just get overwritten. Super frustrating because if this was open source I could actually look and see why exactly this is happening and see how easy it would be to fix—whether 5 minutes or 5 hours.

Not possible to reference internally. 

One macro says things like "1 at full delay 3 enter" while the other says something like "1 at 0 delay 5 enter". I cannot get both those macros to execute simultaneously so that I fire both at the same time such that channel 1 goes to full at 3 seconds and goes out at 5 seconds. There's a very good reason why I need to do this that I can't adequately get into here.

I think it's not actually a macro limitation but a "delay" command limitation. Can't send multiple delay commands to same fixture. The old one will just get overwritten. Super frustrating because if this was open source I could actually look and see why exactly this is happening and see how easy it would be to fix—whether 5 minutes or 5 hours.

It's probably something like.. I mean if I were coding a command line, which I will be soon, I would (probably) make each command line execution be a separate controller that can make its own change requests. That way there's no limit to how many can be running simultaneously. So that way you're setting yourself up for success, not failure. But if it's set up instead where these controllers are set up on the parameter and they are just commandeered by command line, then it's like, well why?

Just like when you actually type commands in the command line, changes to manual values don't "stack", they are immediately executed.

This is expected behavior.

I think your issue is you are coming at this with a different mental model to how its designed to work.  Fundamentally the delay in the command line is not an instruction to the command line processor, but is setting an attribute on the channel you are addressing.    So the command is executing immediately and setting the target value for the channel and the delay time for when you want it to go to that value. 

You are kind of re inventing what the desk will do for you without creating the macro in that way.  its just a cue list with a follow that says turn it on after 3 and then off after another 2 seconds.  You can have multiple cue lists.

this might work (but not sure about the delay on the up):

record a sub:  1 @ full.  Sub properties:  time 1 up, dwell 3, down time 3 (or whatever)

write your macro to execute the submaster (same as pressing the bump button).

maybe the up dwell could be a pause in the macro before it triggers the sub. . . . .

Andrew

I just recorded a video showing exactly what I'm trying to do, but the lag was so insane that you can't even see what it's doing because the Eos screen was only recorded at 1 frame every 5 seconds, but here it is anyway: www.youtube.com/watch

Can't use the submaster method because they need to be on multiple independent strips and each individual offset fixture needs its own unique delay time (you'll see what I mean in the video, it's basically creating a super intuitive chase/wipe effect without an effects engine.)

Mike A said:

but is setting an attribute on the channel you are addressing

I was afraid of that, that's what it seems like. 

I may be able to get cue lists to do what I need, but that will be a ton of extra coding to get that to work, plus it's way more annoying for my end user to have to assign each strip not just a macro, but a cue list as well, one for each unique strip.

It would be amazing if the show control system was able to do command line events. That would delete a lot of steps.