Ion : LTP mode when using a sub master while not programed as LTP ....

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is the behaviour you're experiencing when you say LTP, but if when you move the fader from zero the values jump to the levels of the Submaster, it may be that it is set as Independent.

Check the Priority column in the Submasters editor display, if this says Independent this may be what's causing your problem.

Cheers

Dan

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is the behaviour you're experiencing when you say LTP, but if when you move the fader from zero the values jump to the levels of the Submaster, it may be that it is set as Independent.

Check the Priority column in the Submasters editor display, if this says Independent this may be what's causing your problem.

Cheers

Dan

The default behavior for Subs on Element and Ion is HTP.

Channel faders on Element are LTP. Could this be where the confusion lies?

Dear Dan,

I checked everything in the Submasters displays yet, nothing is programmed as independent or priority or anything else that's why i really don't understand ! 

Thank you for your answer

Riri

Dear graham parker,

I know the default behavior for Subs on element and ion is HTP, while channel faders  is LTP.

The fact is that when using a fader wing on ion, the masters on it can be only used as playback or sub masters, not as channel faders isn't it ?

So it shouldn't be a problem.

The strange thing is also that the intensity level and number of faders doesn't appear on the wing screen while it is working... 

Then maybe something is programmed in the show or desk set-up, i already tried also in the sub masters set-up in the show displays... And no answers ! 

This thing is driving me crazy !

Thank you a lot for your answer !

Hi Riri,

Sorry this hasn't helped with your problem. Can you be more specific about what is actually happening. Can you give some steps and tell me what results you are getting?

Thanks

Dan

You can use your wings in channel mode.  If you hold down fader controls as you would to change pages on the wings, you will see a selection at the end of the page options to put them into channel mode.  It is pretty apparent when you are in this mode - the LEDs are red and the display indicates channel.

If you'd care to post your show file here, and explain exactly which channels/submasters etc you are seeing this on, I'm sure several of us would be happy to take a look!

Thanks much!

a

Hey Dan, 

I'll try to be more specific about what is happening. 

- I open my show, everything is loaded perfectly, and all the sub masters i recorded on the element are working good as well as the cues, part cues, time ..... Nothing wrong.

- I want to create a new sub master, i do my preparation ex :  channel 24+channel 23@Full record sub 12 , the green led under the fader is lighting...

-I go check on the sub display, everything is normal, by default, no independent, or ltp or anything else ...

-I have a cue sent live on stage, and i want to add my sub master n°12, when i up the fader the cue on stage is desapearing, like if my sub master was programed as LTP mode. 

Thank you very much

Dear Anne,

Thank you for your answer, i now remember this manipulation to be in channel mode. It is obvious that you can be in channel mode or sub masters mode !!! 

I do have to ask the lighting designer if he minds that i post the show file here before doing it. 

If you want to check i answered Dan about the exact steps and what is happening with this sub master issue ! 

Thank you so much

Hey Riri.  Just to be clear - we are talking about intensity instructions, yes?  Because NPs are always LTP.  What is the behavior like?  Are values snapping or fading?  

If your designer doesn't want to put a show file out in the public domain - you can email to me at anne.valentino@etcconnect.com.  

With a description of the cue, the sub and the channels involved, we should be able to sort it out.  Also, want software version are you running?

Thanks!

a