Why are all the window-guys so against Mac-development? If HES would get extra people working on only mac, it wouldn't affect the windows-development :poke:
it´s a bit more complex than that.. Just hiring in new guys to do osx development does not mean that they can work by themselves.. it will actually take quite a lot of effort for the other developers to help the new guys understand and get an overview of what the code does.. I don´t know the status of the code, in terms of documentation etc.. but in general porting something over to osx is much more time consuming than you should think.
-For me a osx version is nothing else than a waste of developing time in my perspective(and i´m typing on a mac..) -hey, bootcamp/parralells works perfect!
I'm a Mac guy...and, like I mentioned above, I would LOVE to see a Mac version. However, there are so many other things out there that need attention before devoting development time to a Mac version. In this economy, it's not all that easy to get approval for a couple of new positions to do Mac development when there are already other options in place for Mac users.
It's kind of the same as the Mac CMA development. It's pretty much stopped right now. Yes, there is a Mac CMA. Yes, it works. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles of the Windows CMA. There is only so much development money to go around and you have to put your eggs in the right basket.
iPhone app...that's another story (at least for me).
I just wanted to add another voice to the chorus and completely agree with most every comment so far in this thread. Mac and iPhone and Wholehog be one! Please. Yes ASAP. and Go. Now please. Yes. Please. Thank you. Yes. Did I say yes yet?
The wholehog absolutely needs some sort of solid wireless remote focus device, official or otherwise. I realize there are workaround ways to pull it off if you are wiling to buy specific PDA computers with windows, download the application, setup a wireless network, etc. Cumbersome, no? Maybe I'm wrong? I think we need broader options ... something solid, simple, reliable. My vote would definitely be an iPhone application if the PDA is going to be the hardware device ... this would rule as far as I'm concerned! It's the most widely used PDA on the earth, I think you could use an iPod Touch with the same app (think so) which is about $200 right? And and iPhone application development program has a very low barrier to entry. I'd pay a fair bit for an app that worked if someone could make it happen.
iPhone aside ... In general, it occurs to me that, as lighting and video continue to mush together, there's an increasing demand to get video assets and control interfaces to cooperate with each other. Apple OS will surely need to be a part of the picture in my mind, since much video editing and compression is Apple-centric. Hog 3PC for MAC would be a huge step in the right direction ... I have no idea what's actually involved in making that reality. I'm sure it's more involved than we users might imagine ... but I hope a lot of energy gets put into doing something big before these technologies completely converge and we Hog lovers find ourselves looking for alternatives.
Now that Barco and HES are together ... and all recent HES fixtures entries have been of a video or pixel mapping nature, it seems logical to me that their control platform be evolving alongside the other products. Is the logical next evolution of Wholehog not a significant step toward real video control? I'm looking at MA Video, or just how I can see and manipulate clips on the tiles of an MA .... I'm saying "why not us too?"
Got off on a tangent there ... sorry. If anyone at HES knows anything about any of this, I'm sure we'd all love to hear what's in the works.
More and more Mac converts are come on line I am one myself, It would be a good move to have Hog3 for Mac's and Iphones, not every one can swollow the cost of a tablet PC.
I also think that a version of Hog 3 MAC should be something that High End and Barco need to be thinking about. With so many Iphones and Macs in our industry and with the amalgamation of video (which is largely mac) into the lighting control realm now.
I also use ESP vision and VW as part of my design workflow. I find my self constantly trying to port info through parallels into my hog 3PC workflow. Imagine the possibilities if you could design / visualise / control all in the same workflow. Designing with Vectorworks is more and more widely seen and nearly all i know use Macs. Now that ESP have a MAC version, we have more reason to need a version of 'Hog 3 MAC'
I do however realise the R & D involved in making this happen and would not want it to take away from other developments. I do however think it would be a good think to encourage developments in the Video and Lighting control interface that will be our furture..., and also restore some faith in the hog 3 platform in general.
Actually, WholeHog3 is built using QT, which is a cross-platform development toolkit. I use QT4 and I've written software on my main platform (Linux) and was able to compile the same program with only minor changes on both Windows and OSX / Mac.
I would love to see a Linux version too! Would save me needing to run VirtualBox with Windows.
