I would like to be able to change the page of playback wings independently from the main playback. The problem I see is when looking at the pages view. How do you display the extra page information? I would say use open + next page on the playback wing to open page info.
"Why don't you put main playback in a templat page?"
that will be ok in many cases, but then you can't change main playbacks page.., and i can see beeing able to swop pages individually for console/wings can be handy.
I think that this is an interesting idea, but I think it could become very tough to keep track of which page(s) are active on which playback surfaces, especially when you consider that we support up to 9 separate playback surfaces (the console faders + 8 mini playback wings).
Can you give me some examples of how you'd like to use this functionality?
If I had some ideas about situations that the current page system doesn't handle well we might be able to come up with ideas about how things could be handled better.
I think that this request a minimum of organization and rigour. When I'm working on live show (like festival) i usually divide my console in differents parts, where each parts is a function (Colour, gobo, dimmer.....), and each parts had always the same maximum numbers of playbacks.
So eatch "partial" page could be a part.
do not hesitate to ask more detail, that's clear in my mind but but I am not very good in explanations.
Without going to 2 playback wings (I found this setup a little too cumbersome) I would like to have my moving lights looks on the main console playback. Then have a playback wing that has conventional band washes on one page and with a next page toggle be able to control my band specials.
Based on the feedback I'm seeing, I think that the best way to handle this may be with "additive pages". Additive pages would behave similarly to additive views. When you change to an additive page, the masters that have playbacks assigned on the additive page would be loaded with the proper lists and scenes, but anything not assigned on the additive page would just show through from the page that had loaded previously. This would allow you to change the playbacks loaded on any combination of masters that you like.
I saw this in the manual. But I dont quite understand.:dunce: Could you explain "additive views" and how they work?:1zhelp: How would we switch to an additive page?
Normally when you select a view (non-additive) it closes all other windows, editors, etc. that you have open and replaces them with the ones recorded into tthe view.
An additive view simply adds another window to whatever is currently open.
Good examples of these are the default "Palettes" view is a non-additive view, but the default "Output" and "Programmer" views are additive.
To see if a view is additive or not do Open+View and select the spreadsheet icon from the top toolbar of the views directory. The far right column will tell you if a given view is additive or not. You can also change a view to be additive or not here.
So for Pages..I guess it would mean adding a cloumn after the "macro" one for additive.
Well....when I just checked a new show on the console it seems all of the default views are additive....not sure when that changed, but I could swear that "Palletes" used to be non-additive in an earlier version:friday:
In the meantime you can accomplish exactly what you want if you do the following:
Create 3 pages.
Page 1 will be your Template page with all your moving light lists on the main console playbacks.
Page 2 will have all your stage wash looks on the mini-wing
Page 3 will have all your stage specials on the mini-wing
Next go under Preferences>>Misc, and under Page Change Options select "Leave In Background" from the drop down list and select "Remember Fader Values" below this.
Now when you change between Pages 2+3 the other lists will keep running instead of releasing. You will have to "Match" your fader values when changing pages if you have moved any of the faders (look for the vertical blue bar in the left side of that cue-list ledger).
I just thought all views were non-Additive. So all of my views have the group, colour, beam and posistion in them at the backround so when i close the windows infront of tyhem, they come back.
